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Long network run Needs a Solution
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Post 16 made on Wednesday May 16, 2018 at 21:49
InAMinute
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On May 16, 2018 at 12:01, Daniel Tonks said...
I've got a pair of these running in my house, as a temporary solution to get wired Ethernet to an above-garage loft with no CAT cable, just one RG6 for satellite TV, no easy way to quickly run a new cable, and poor WiFi coverage despite the AP being right at the bottom of the stairs.

Despite being a much shorter run than 300', speed is nowhere near 1000mbit. Maybe 100-200mbit max. Latency is also quite high (like WiFi levels). BUT - it actually works, it works very reliably, and there's zero glitching when streaming high-bitrate (50mbit) video.

MoCA 1.0 has a top speed of 100 Mbps. MoCA 1.1 reaches 175 Mbps. MoCA 2.0 tops out at 500 Mbps. And bonded MoCA 2.0 can hit speeds in excess of 1 Gbps!
Post 17 made on Wednesday May 16, 2018 at 22:12
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On May 15, 2018 at 23:29, andrewinboulder said...
something like this might work

[Link: bolideco.com]

Spec’d up to 1000 feet over coax
OP | Post 18 made on Friday May 18, 2018 at 13:21
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On May 16, 2018 at 12:35, ericspencer said...
Your issue is most likely the fact that you are right at limit of the 100m max for an ethernet link. Sometimes a higher headroom cable will fix the issue, but if you could pull a new cable, you would pull fiber instead. I would try a PoE powered extender like this unit [Link: intellinet-network.com]. These work well.

I think this is the answer I was looking for. Thanks

yes I should have put fiber in.
yes AirMax is great.
I Sometimes use
[Link: netsys-direct.com]
but i wanted more speed.

Thanks for all your input.
Flandon the mighty Dragon Fisher
Post 19 made on Friday May 18, 2018 at 20:42
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On May 16, 2018 at 00:43, Ernie Gilman said...
If you had to do this, what device would give you +52 dBmV? I ask because I did a few TV antenna systems years ago that required that signal level, but hey, that was to deliver +10 to TWO HUNDRED TVs! I know we're not talking about the same kind of signal, but those levels... wow!

I think he means return as in transmit level as written.
OP | Post 20 made on Tuesday July 10, 2018 at 11:34
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The Results:

I cut the Cat6 at the demark on the outside of the Main house ~100' from the Main house network. I installed the POE extender. It would power up but provide a network connection on the Long run(Cabana Side). I tried to power it from the Cabana side, it would power up but no network connection.

It was time to replace the Router and Network switch in the Main house(having issues) So i put in a USG and US-48-500.

With the tough-switch TS-8-Pro Set to 100half and the US-48-500 set to auto or 100 full/half i couldn't get any thing to work. even set to 10full.

I installed Ferrite Beads 3 in the main house 2 at the Demark 2 in a pull box by the Cabana 3 by the TS-8-Pro in the Cabana.

I installed a 1000/100/10 netgear 5port switch right before the TS-8-Pro. this allowed the network to operate at 10full set in the US-48-500.

There must be something inducing current or EMF interference happening on the run to the Cabana.

I should have run Fiber.
I should Have Run FIBER!
it wont happen again Ernie. (Dad)

My Thoughts.
Maybe i can use the Brown and Blue Pair as a "Shield/Drain" to ground out the interference?

Your Thoughts?

Thanks
Flandon
Flandon the mighty Dragon Fisher
Post 21 made on Tuesday July 10, 2018 at 15:37
Ernie Gilman
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Well, I'm not seeing it. Sorry.

Sure, connect the brown and blue pairs to the ground. It could not hurt. Try it at each end, then what the hell, at both ends, to see what happens.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
OP | Post 22 made on Wednesday July 11, 2018 at 15:35
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Well using the Brown and blue pairs as a shield/drain didn't work. at both ends. used jelly beans to connect to the ground wire tube on a UBNT Shielded connector. No luck no faster speed Nada zilch
Flandon the mighty Dragon Fisher
Post 23 made on Wednesday July 11, 2018 at 16:14
Ernie Gilman
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And, of course, you also tried it grounded only at one end, and then grounded only at the other end.

Just for the hell of it, does your TDR show the wire to be the same length for each pair, and from both ends? A bad kink could show different lengths. If it were bad enough to show up on a TDR, it could mess with the data.

Check all the conductors for short to power ground, both when plugged into the network and when not.

Do networks isolate all wire conductors from power ground? I think so but I'm not sure.

In other words, test things you have zero reasons to test.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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