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Long network run Needs a Solution
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Topic: | Long network run Needs a Solution This thread has 22 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 17:19 |
flandon Advanced Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2004 805 |
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Hi Guys here's one I'm not sure how to solve. Existing C4 home, Good Network, Cable Modem etc... they added a Pool and Cabana. I ran RG11 and 2 Cat6DB and 2 Cat5DB. for the Link between the two. There is 4 Zones of C4 Audio An EA3 With a AVR for the Main room. the Run from the Main Network switch SG24(not sure of actual Model# But it is an SG) Cisco. to the ToughSwich Pro from UBNT. is 330'. I had to turn the handshaking down to 100fullduplex to get a stable connection. this has worked for 1yr.ish. I got a call saying that All IP controlled devices and audio was not playing. I.e. C4 in the Cabana is down. I log on remotely and i cant see any Network devices out there. Alonger story shorter is i had to turn the Network connection down to 100halfduplex to get stable. Now all is working i started a Stream of audio up and then a big download and it glitched once. I dont see the Client doing this but I want/need a faster connection.
SO i think I'm Looking for a network bridge that can use at the most 8pair to achive the gigabit connection I Want. ( 2 Cat6DB @ 330')
Thought 1 Replace the two network switches with Ubiquiti UniFi switches that will allow for aggregation of two connecting ports. And set the ports to 100full. I see that cost being arround $1000
any other options you can think of?
Thanks in advance. Flandon
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Post 2 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 17:41 |
james_aa Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2018 235 |
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Not the neatest solution, but if one of your switches is POE, you could put an POE powerable mini 5 port switch (i think netgear do some.. probly others too) in an IP rated enclosure like this [Link: bluehelix.co.uk] half way allong the existing cable run outdoors. Then you would essentially be halving the distance as you would now have a booster in the middle. Estimated material cost : <$100 for switch and enclosure.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 17:41 |
edizzle Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | March 2005 5,916 |
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shoulda pulled fiber!!!!
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Post 4 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 17:45 |
kgossen Super Member |
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On May 15, 2018 at 17:41, edizzle said...
shoulda pulled fiber!!!! And we have a winner
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Post 5 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 19:19 |
tweeterguy Loyal Member |
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Back pull one of those copper cables and pull fiber. You’re aware the limit of category cable is 100m right, that’s 328’. Copper should have never been pulled in the first place...yah hindsight is 20/20.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 20:40 |
PeterN Active Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2008 546 |
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Installed one of these at shorter distance and never had an issue. Tested at 500’ in shop beforehand. [Link: nvtphybridge.com]
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Post 7 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 21:10 |
Daniel Tonks Wrangler of Remotes |
Joined: Posts: | October 1998 28,780 |
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Thinking fiber here too. RG11 also isn't normally useful above 250-300 feet max.
Anyone know how shielded CAT6A or CAT7 would perform in this scenario?
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Post 8 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 22:07 |
3PedalMINI Loyal Member |
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I’m really struggling here with why fiber wasn’t pulled? Unless you didn’t have a say and sparky did it?
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Post 9 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 22:13 |
vwpower44 Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2004 3,662 |
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Doesn't Planet make a solution to send Network over 100 Meters? Could always do some Nano Beams :)
We just did a Nano Beam shooting 200 MBS around 600 feet. Was pretty outstanding.
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Post 10 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 23:29 |
andrewinboulder Select Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2003 1,518 |
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Post 11 made on Tuesday May 15, 2018 at 23:31 |
InAMinute Long Time Member |
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You could try Moca 2.0 300 ft is Moca 2.0 Max to get full speed just under 1000 [Link: amazon.com]Per the specs the Max transmit is +52 dBmV and the Max attenuation it can overcome and still communicate full speed is 50 dB, for an input of +2 dBmv. It will still work beyond that but it will get slower.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday May 16, 2018 at 00:43 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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On May 15, 2018 at 23:31, InAMinute said...
Per the specs the Max transmit is +52 dBmV and the Max attenuation it can overcome and still communicate full speed is 50 dB, for an input of +2 dBmv. It will still work beyond that but it will get slower. If you had to do this, what device would give you +52 dBmV? I ask because I did a few TV antenna systems years ago that required that signal level, but hey, that was to deliver +10 to TWO HUNDRED TVs! I know we're not talking about the same kind of signal, but those levels... wow!
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Post 13 made on Wednesday May 16, 2018 at 12:01 |
Daniel Tonks Wrangler of Remotes |
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On May 15, 2018 at 23:31, InAMinute said...
You could try Moca 2.0 300 ft is Moca 2.0 Max to get full speed just under 1000 [Link: amazon.com]Per the specs the Max transmit is +52 dBmV and the Max attenuation it can overcome and still communicate full speed is 50 dB, for an input of +2 dBmv. It will still work beyond that but it will get slower. I've got a pair of these running in my house, as a temporary solution to get wired Ethernet to an above-garage loft with no CAT cable, just one RG6 for satellite TV, no easy way to quickly run a new cable, and poor WiFi coverage despite the AP being right at the bottom of the stairs. Despite being a much shorter run than 300', speed is nowhere near 1000mbit. Maybe 100-200mbit max. Latency is also quite high (like WiFi levels). BUT - it actually works, it works very reliably, and there's zero glitching when streaming high-bitrate (50mbit) video.
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Post 14 made on Wednesday May 16, 2018 at 12:35 |
ericspencer Active Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2011 536 |
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Your issue is most likely the fact that you are right at limit of the 100m max for an ethernet link. Sometimes a higher headroom cable will fix the issue, but if you could pull a new cable, you would pull fiber instead. I would try a PoE powered extender like this unit [Link: intellinet-network.com]. These work well.
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Post 15 made on Wednesday May 16, 2018 at 13:25 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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On May 15, 2018 at 22:13, vwpower44 said...
Doesn't Planet make a solution to send Network over 100 Meters? Could always do some Nano Beams :)
We just did a Nano Beam shooting 200 MBS around 600 feet. Was pretty outstanding. We just did a job last month with NanoStations beaming to a barn, connected to a Poe switch and powering 4 cams with local SD card recording. Live view and recorded view works perfectly and fast.
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