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Settle this family argument
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Post 16 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 11:49
Mac Burks (39)
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My gf and i about 12 years ago...

She has a fan she turns on every night. The noise helps her sleep. She points it at the wall so its only use is the noise it makes. I put it on an X10 widget and program it to a remote control that also controls the bedroom AV.

Works great right? Grab the remote and turn the fan on after turning the AV off so she can go to sleep?

Nope...

Every day she wakes up and unplugs it to turn it off VS grab the remote...so every night she has to get up and plug it back up to turn it on. For like a month i would plug it back in but within 24 hours she had it unplugged again.

I finally gave up. She currently still sleeps with a fan that she unplugs and plugs back up every day. And before you ask...i know it has an ON/OFF knob...but for some reason its easier to unplug it and plug it back up?
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Post 17 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 12:35
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On March 8, 2018 at 11:16, tweetymp4 said...
...Her "Why is this so complicated, why can't I just use the TV remote controls"

Me " You lost your tv remote controls, and you can't control your cable box with your tv remote anyway... It's like you trying to use the key to your toyota to start your honda because you lost the key to your chevy"

Her "You're always such an a...ho... about this stuff.

"I'm sorry, but I have to differ with you. I HAVE THE SOLUTION. You HAVE TO DO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU TO DO or you won't have any improvement. Why am I an a..ho.. when I have delivered to you EXACTLY THE STEPS NEEDED to solve the problem and you won't do your part?"

Then, turn it to something she has expertise in, and:
"If I asked you for help with a problem I'm having with... canning cherries... and you told me EXACTLY what to do, but I kept making the mistake I had been making... would that be your fault?"
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Post 18 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 14:00
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On 1520527787, Mac Burks (39)

She currently still sleeps with a fan that she unplugs and plugs back up every day. And before you ask...i know it has an ON/OFF knob...but for some reason its easier to unplug it and plug it back up?

Client of mine does this with his TV.Told him there IS a button right there on the side, if you don't want to use the remote.

He replied with "The remote. or that button, doesn't REALLY turn it off. I've heard all about this continued "Phantom Energy" power draw, even when something is turned off.".

His MX980? Same thing. Pulls the power when it's not in use. Of course the remote is always needing a charge when it needs to be used.
Post 19 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 16:09
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Post 20 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 17:56
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On March 8, 2018 at 08:10, 3PedalMINI said...
Iím fairly confident you you guys are missing the point. Iím also fairly confident he is a CI and knows how to ďfix itĒ

Heís saying that his wife had been nagging him about it, a friendly argument insued and she got on the phone and asked where her friends routers were.

What it really comes down to is heís a CI and the last thing he wants todo is fish a wire for an AP.

This sounds VERY familiar. One look at my media room and your thinking, "we are not hiring this guy!"
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Post 21 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 18:22
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What the OP is ACTUALLY asking for is how to get his wife to STFU. Here's the real answer, and it will require actually moving the router this time, but will stop her dead in her tracks before she thinks to ask something like this again.

Bring in all of your tools, even ones you'd never need to do it. Spread out your drop cloth, put all your tools on it. Make sure you have a beer in hand at all times. Cut an unnecessary hole somewhere, just to start the process of annoying her. When you go to the attic or basement, whichever you need to use to run the necessary cat to move the router. Take a piece of scrap wood with you, and drill some holes in it just for the noise. Make this process last much longer than necessary. Take at least an hour nap, out of site in said basement or attic. Wake up, actually run your cable. Hopefully, by now, she's super annoyed by having to walk around your tarp covered with tools you're not using (I forgot to mention to place it in the most inconvenient location possible). Move the router to the new location, but do everything as slowly as humanly possible, making the biggest mess you can in the process. At this point, she should be bordering on furious because you've made a mess, been in the way, made noise, and taken forever. In the future, when she asks for something like this, remind her what a process it is, and she'll leave you alone and never bother you with requests like that again. I guarantee from personal experience that it works 75% of the time, all of the time. My girlfriend hasn't asked me to change any of our stuff since the great bedroom TV mounting episode 3 years ago, and we're both much happier for it.
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Post 22 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 19:32
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If I can add to OMR's torment of your wife.  Unplug the existing router and all cable boxes while all of this is happening, hide all of the car keys so she can't leave.  While you're doing it all, be super nice so she struggles to be mad at you..

That oughta work..................I think.......Give it a try, let us all know how it goes. :)
OP | Post 23 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 21:38
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Yes I could move it. But nowhere with convenient access. I donít need APís in my place. And it works great including pool deck where it is. I hate working on my own gear when off. You guys gave me no ammo. I was hoping 10 people responded with my router is right below tv in the living room.
Post 24 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 21:48
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My router is right below my tv in the living room... but itís not in my bedroom!
Post 25 made on Thursday March 8, 2018 at 23:23
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On March 8, 2018 at 11:49, Mac Burks (39) said...
My gf and i about 12 years ago...

She has a fan she turns on every night. The noise helps her sleep. She points it at the wall so its only use is the noise it makes. I put it on an X10 widget and program it to a remote control that also controls the bedroom AV.

Works great right? Grab the remote and turn the fan on after turning the AV off so she can go to sleep?

Nope...

Every day she wakes up and unplugs it to turn it off VS grab the remote...so every night she has to get up and plug it back up to turn it on. For like a month i would plug it back in but within 24 hours she had it unplugged again.

I finally gave up. She currently still sleeps with a fan that she unplugs and plugs back up every day. And before you ask...i know it has an ON/OFF knob...but for some reason its easier to unplug it and plug it back up?

I also have a fan. Iíve been meaning to pick up a plug I can automate. My wife complains about the noise every night when I turn it on. I tell her if sheíll just wait till Iím asleep, she wonít hear it over the snoring.

Oh, my router is in my rack in my bedroom closet. The AP is mounted center of the house in the attic.
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OP | Post 26 made on Friday March 9, 2018 at 07:48
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On March 8, 2018 at 21:48, Hasbeen said...
My router is right below my tv in the living room... but itís not in my bedroom!

Why the exclamation? Bedroom, living room. Itís just a box.
Her argument is that nobody has them where it can be seen. She does not even know what it does. But she was cleaning and it bothered her that day.
Post 27 made on Friday March 9, 2018 at 10:41
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Maybe mount it to the head board?

If that doesn't make her go crazy, can't you just put it under the bed, or in a nightstand drawer?
Post 28 made on Friday March 9, 2018 at 11:29
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On March 9, 2018 at 07:48, thecapnredfish said...
Why the exclamation?

Because I'm yelling at you.  :) jk

In the almost 30 years I did av work, I never  put a router in a bedroom. I never even considered it as an option.  I'm sure at least once it would've been an easier solution.  But it never crossed my mind to do it.  Why?  I have no idea.  I think we'd have to ask Freud.
Post 29 made on Friday March 9, 2018 at 11:53
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MBR closet ceiling works well, for an AP, if attic above. Any closet ceiling with attic above.

Fans at night - how about a simple outlet timer

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OP | Post 30 made on Friday March 9, 2018 at 11:56
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On March 9, 2018 at 11:29, Hasbeen said...
Because I'm yelling at you.† :) jk

In the almost 30 years I did av work, I never† put a router in a bedroom. I never even considered it as an option.† I'm sure at least once it would've been an easier solution.† But it never crossed my mind to do it.† Why?† I have no idea.† I think we'd have to ask Freud.

Well it was easiest at the time and it's not a customer. The back of house is living room, master bedroom and kitchen nook area not mention pool deck. There is nothing in living room except the tv on wall and tower speakers which are ok.
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