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MX-890 programming question
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Post 31 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 11:01
jhakam
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The image exist on my computer. Not on the internet. It appears as long as I do not shut down my browser. As soon as I shut my browser the image goes away and does not come back.

But here is what the Macro looks like. Everything here works just fine except the TV power on and off.

IF [Press Time >= 2 Second]
IR [AVRís and Amplifiers .1730.Power On]
DELAY [6.5 Second]
IR [TV.656.POWER ON]
DELAY [5.0 Second]
IR [Streaming Media Player.476.MENU]
JUMP [WATCH TV/Additional 1]
ELSE
IR [Streaming Media Player.476.MENU]
IR [Streaming Media Player.476.MENU]
IR [Streaming Media Player.476.MENU]
IR [AVRís and Amplifiers.1730.Power Off]
IR [TV.656.POWER OFF]
JUMP [Main]
Post 32 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 18:05
Brad Humphrey
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And that looks like what everyone is telling you NOT to do. You are dragging the IR codes from the database into your macro. That is wrong. You need to hit the round red button at the top (macro recorder) and navigate to each page the commands are on the remote, then add them that way (alias).

And why are there such long delays in the macro? I have not had to use delays like that on equipment, in almost 15 years. Also where the delays are at makes no sense to me. TV power is usually the 1st command in a macro, since it usually does require a bit of time to boot up. Why would you place it at the end of the macro string?
Just doesn't look right to me. That's on top of the fact, that you are not alias your commands - which is most likely causing your problem.
Post 33 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 18:26
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I've told you two or three times what you did wrong and you still continue to ignore me. Good luck with your system. You're going to need it.
Post 34 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 23:09
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Your arrogance is amazing to think I have not tried your way. The reason I am on this thread is because I have tried every conceivable way possible to make this work including doing it your way. I programmed my MX880 the same way and it has worked flawlessly for about 9 years.

I also spoke with a local shop that programs URC remotes. They tell me they rarely use a flasher on a TV when using URC remotes.

The reason there are delays in that macro are not by accident. The processor that I am using has a handshake issue with my TV. I had to find a way to make things work. If do not believe me call Emotiva and let them explain the issue with 8K Samsung TV's. By the way my background is software development so I am use to debugging software. This one has a bug that has only one answer. Remove the LED flasher from the TV and everything works. Get off your high horse when somebody is seeking help.
Post 35 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 23:15
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On February 20, 2020 at 23:09, jhakam said...
Your arrogance is amazing to think I have not tried your way. The reason I am on this thread is because I have tried every conceivable way possible to make this work including doing it your way. I programmed my MX880 the same way and it has worked flawlessly for about 9 years.

I also spoke with a local shop that programs URC remotes. They tell me they rarely use a flasher on a TV when using URC remotes.

The reason there are delays in that macro are not by accident. The processor that I am using has a handshake issue with my TV. I had to find a way to make things work. If do not believe me call Emotiva and let them explain the issue with 8K Samsung TV's. By the way my background is software development so I am use to debugging software. This one has a bug that has only one answer. Remove the LED flasher from the TV and everything works. Get off your high horse when somebody is seeking help.

Hahahaha. Arrogance. I KNOW what the problem is. I KNOW you did not try to fix the proper way, because I can even tell from the info you posted. There is no big, and the shop you claim you spoke to either doesn't know wtf they are doing, or you just flat out lied about speaking to them (why did you speak to them but not have them fix it?). I can 100% gaurantee I know what the issue is, I said what the issue is, and user error is the issue. You programmed it wrong, simple as that. I tried to help you but you ignored it. It works via it cause you eliminated the problem, but now have a less reliable system. If that's how you want it, fine, but don't act like the one remote you've programmed somehow qualifies you to make a judgement on what's a bug and what user error compared to the thousands that I have programmed. It's such a simple fix but YOU are the one that is too arrogant to listen, even when you are the one that seaked out advice.
Post 36 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 23:35
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I really do not care what you think. You may have programmed thousands of remotes or you might not have. As I said I have tried your way. You probably know nothing about debugging software. That is apparent. And if you do not believe me when I told you that I spoke to somebody who programs URC remotes then you can speak to Definitive Audio of Bellevue, Wa.

I tried to seek out help and all I have gotten is a bunch of lip from you. I do not care if you believe me or not. You do not know me and you are out of place to say so. Your problem is yourself. Others will read this forum and they will make up their own minds.
Post 37 made on Thursday February 20, 2020 at 23:49
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Go ahead and post up those changes you made then. Show us you tried it "my way?" That's in quotes cause it's not my way, it's the RIGHT WAY and the only way what you are trying to do will work with the proper ir routing and ir emitters. Since you're not listening AT ALL, let me spell it out. YOU ARE PROGRAMMING THE REMOTE INCORRECTLY. Rather then attempt to throw out your credentials, which I would think a software developer could figure out how to post a picture, maybe just listen to folks who have done this, who continue to do this daily and have done it for years and years. Those of us that know the software inside and out. You can run any debugging software you want, but the fact remains you simply programmed incorrectly and a simple programming fix would have made all your issues disappear. I don't have to help anyone. I don't get paid to come here. I posted as to direct you in the right direction but you would rather pretend that you know what you are doing and that you can not possibly have made a mistake. Like I said, from the macro you typed out here after you couldn't post a picture, proves that what you did in programming was incorrect. I'm sorry that you don't want to listen, but that's on you. I did my part to try and steer you in the right direction, but you'd prefer to stay down that wrong path. That's fine, it's your system, do with it what you want
Post 38 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 01:58
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On February 20, 2020 at 23:09, jhakam said...
 By the way my background is software development so I am use to debugging software.

Maybe you can put that debugging background into finding out why you can't paste an image to this thread. Just sayin'
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Post 39 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 04:47
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On February 20, 2020 at 11:01, jhakam said...
The image exist on my computer. Not on the internet. It appears as long as I do not shut down my browser. As soon as I shut my browser the image goes away and does not come back.

I haven't been watching this thread for a while and I see it has devolved into a bunch of
GOOD ADVICE
OP IGNORING ADVICE
INSULTS ALL AROUND.

OP, please try what goldenzrule suggests. And report accurately on what happens. He knows what he's doing.

I have to admit that I AM AMAZED that you think a URL pointing to a picture in your computer will somehow make, say, MY computer connect to yours and show the image! This shows a complete lack of understanding of the process!

The way to show an image in a post is to locate that image on the internet, and then use the methods you used to direct the RC software to that image. How could you possibly think we can see images on your computer? I mean, did you even bother to tell us when your computer will be on, so we can check in during those hours?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. ďBernieĒ Shaw
Post 40 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 10:46
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I am aware of these facts. I will not post most of anything I do to the internet. That is why I physically typed it in. I have no social media accounts and will never have one in the future and will never ever allow anybody access to any personal data. Period end of story.

On another note. And I want to emphasize this, I have tried using the Aliases as suggested. They do not work any better than what I am employing. As for putting in the delays that I use is also unique to my situation. If you any doubts about that you can contact EMOTIVA and ask about the issues with Samsung 8K TV's. Hopefully they will be issuing a firmware upgrade next week that will fix my problem. And that will allow me to simplify my macro further.

The only time I come to these forums is seek advice after I have tried everything possible. I want to make sure that I have not missed anything. I do not need attitude. I need help. I have not gotten it.
Post 41 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 13:17
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How did you alias the commands? 
Post 42 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 13:49
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Two more possibilities. If your IR port on the base station is dialed down too low maybe try adjusting with a small screwdriver. If that doesnít help look at the IR repeat length of the command in the macro. If itís set to 1 bump it to 3. And yes you should alias in macros only. IR commands are only good for line of site but if the remote doesnít remain pointed it misses. Defeats the idea of the system reliability for sure.
Post 43 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 13:56
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On February 21, 2020 at 13:49, Fritz Thomas said...
Two more possibilities. If your IR port on the base station is dialed down too low maybe try adjusting with a small screwdriver. If that doesnít help look at the IR repeat length of the command in the macro. If itís set to 1 bump it to 3. And yes you should alias in macros only. IR commands are only good for line of site but if the remote doesnít remain pointed it misses. Defeats the idea of the system reliability for sure.

That is helpful. I disagree about the Aliases but that can be discussed later. Thank you.
Post 44 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 14:00
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On February 21, 2020 at 13:56, jhakam said...
That is helpful. I disagree about the Aliases but that can be discussed later. Thank you.

You disagree that you should alias in macros?  Why are you even here if you are not willing to listen to anyone?
Post 45 made on Friday February 21, 2020 at 14:18
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On February 21, 2020 at 14:00, goldenzrule said...

You disagree that you should alias in macros?† Why are you even here if you are not willing to listen to anyone?

The previous reply made a suggestion. It worked and does not matter which direction I point my remote. Clearly, I say thank you for the previous suggestion but not to you. The chip on your shoulder is much too big. Get a life.
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