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AMX VP Arrested for hacking Sapphire
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Post 16 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 02:32
pilgram
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On March 29, 2008 at 01:51, Mattman said...
This idiot has managed to destroy his
personal and professional life, given his company a PR
blackeye that won't go away anytime soon and has opened
himself and AMX up for a major lawsuit by Sapphire, Crestron
and any other manufacturers that Sapphire reps for.

Greed is a crazy thing.............nobody wins.
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!

Proud to say that my property is protected by a high speed wireless device!
Post 17 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 02:43
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Just to be fair to the accused and respecting our legal system, no one has been found guilty yet, so lets not jump the gun and prematurely assume facts before they are made known to be fact.
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Post 18 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 02:48
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On March 29, 2008 at 02:43, tsvisser said...
Just to be fair to the accused and respecting our legal
system, no one has been found guilty yet, so lets not
jump the gun and prematurely assume facts before they
are made known to be fact.

Good point.
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!

Proud to say that my property is protected by a high speed wireless device!
Post 19 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 06:57
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On March 29, 2008 at 02:43, tsvisser said...
Just to be fair to the accused and respecting our legal
system, no one has been found guilty yet, so lets not
jump the gun and prematurely assume facts before they
are made known to be fact.

what's fun about that?

mike
It's always something.....sigh.
Post 20 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 19:06
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On March 29, 2008 at 02:43, tsvisser said...
Just to be fair to the accused and respecting our legal
system, no one has been found guilty yet, so lets not
jump the gun and prematurely assume facts before they
are made known to be fact.

I bet the authorities that conducted the investigation would not have arrested him on 3 different charges if he was that innocent.

Its really a shame for AMX, now every Crestron sales man has a new pitch!
Post 21 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 19:46
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On March 28, 2008 at 22:50, ProgressiveCode said...
I'm a ten year veteran control system programmer, spending
the majority of my time focusing on AMX systems. I've
also done my fair share of Crestron programming, and earned
a Level 2 certification in 2003. I vastly prefer programming
and especially servicing AMX installs. My personal success
and happiness is in many ways dependent on AMX's continued
success and growth. I have always felt, personal preference
aside, that our industry benefits greatly from the fierce
competition between AMX and Crestron. I am saddened by
this news and fear the potential repercussions of Mr.
Goldenberg's actions.

Nice post. One interesting thing will be to see what actually happens to AMX since it is no longer a private company in Texas but rather part of a large multinational conglomerate. No doubt they will distance themselves from him saying he was acting alone and without the knowledge of his superiors, but lets see what the investigation brings.

Sapphire is our rep and are good friends. I hate that this happened to them. They are also very tight with Crestron.

Hey, I wonder if AMX knows where my $1.1m in Crestron sales went last year? LOL!
Post 22 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 19:53
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Man, did anyone actually read the prosecuters announcement? Man, that guy was blatant.

Here's a cut and paste:

032808 Goldenberg
Friday, March 28, 2008, 06:00 PM
Bergen County Prosecutor=s Office
PRESS RELEASE

TO: ALL NEWS MEDIA
FROM: PROSECUTOR JOHN MOLINELLI
DATE: MARCH 28, 2008

Bergen County Prosecutor John L. Molinelli announced the arrest of David A. Goldenberg, D.O.B. 05/18/1962, of 432 Golf Dr., Oceanside NY. Goldenberg was arrested on March 28, 2008, on charges of Unlawful Access of a Computer System / Network (2C:20-25b); Unlawful Access of Computer Data / Theft of Data (2C:20-25c); and Conducting an Illegal Wiretap (2A:156A-27).

The arrest came about as a result of a joint investigation conducted by members of the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office Computer Crimes Unit, under the direction of Chief Joseph Macellaro and members of the Paramus Police Department, under the direction of Deputy Chief Richard Cary.

The arrest stemmed from an investigation concerning the following: The Paramus Police Department received a complaint from a Paramus based corporation known as Sapphire Marketing, who specializes in high-end audio/visual systems. Representatives of Sapphire reported that they were being suspiciously and consistently underbid for contracts by a competitor for whom David Goldenberg works. They expressed suspicion of corporate espionage. Based on anomalies that the complainant noticed within their computer network and more specifically their electronic mail (e-mail) system, they suspected that the company’s e-mail system had been compromised and that e-mail was being intercepted. The Paramus Police Department (a member of the Computer Crimes Task Force) and the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office Computer Crimes Unit initiated an investigation.

The investigation revealed that Mr. Goldenberg had engineered the passwords protecting several of the complainant’s e-mail accounts. For a period of time, Mr. Goldenberg was intercepting and reading e-mails that related to potential contracts. Mr. Goldenberg then established a free e-mail account that he had control over, and created an automatic forward of the victim’s e-mail so that they would be sent to him directly. This afforded Mr. Goldenberg advanced knowledge of Sapphire’s customers and bid prices, thus further affording him an opportunity to underbid Sapphire. Sapphire Marketing estimates the loss in revenue from Mr. Goldenberg’s actions to exceed one-million dollars. Mr. Goldenberg was arrested without incident on this date.

Prosecutor Molinelli states that the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutor Molinelli would like to thank the Paramus Police Department for their prompt action in this investigation and their continuing commitment to the Computer Crimes Task Force.
Post 23 made on Saturday March 29, 2008 at 21:42
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AMX-GATE!


Sounds like Goldenberg pulled a Spitzer only no 'hos were involved, just sloppy, sleazy internet stuff.

Kind of like me here.
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
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Post 24 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 13:57
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On March 29, 2008 at 19:46, ejfiii said...
Nice post. One interesting thing will be to see what
actually happens to AMX since it is no longer a private
company in Texas but rather part of a large multinational
conglomerate. No doubt they will distance themselves
from him saying he was acting alone and without the knowledge
of his superiors, but lets see what the investigation
brings.

Sapphire is our rep and are good friends. I hate that
this happened to them. They are also very tight with
Crestron.

Hey, I wonder if AMX knows where my $1.1m in Crestron
sales went last year? LOL!

Actually AMX is private...it went from being a publicly held Texas corporation to a privately held subsidiary of a multinational conglomerate, which has no reporting responsibilities except to that of the owners of Ducossois...for accuracy's sake...
Post 25 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 16:06
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Valued Partner,



As you may have heard, there have been accusations made against David Goldenberg. We are surprised and stunned by this news. It is the clear and unambiguous policy of AMX that every employee act with the highest moral and ethical standards, and to obey the law in all respects. We have always stressed fair and honest competition, and in no way do we condone any unethical or unlawful behavior.



David has been placed on a leave of absence, effective immediately, while this matter is investigated. Alan Stoddard will be acting in his role until further notice.



Entering our 26th year of business, we at AMX are proud of our high moral standing in the industry and the strength of character of our more than 650 people focused on supporting our customers worldwide. We look forward to continuing this tradition over the next 26 years.



Rashid M. Skaf

President & CEO

AMX

Post 26 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 18:39
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Just playing "Devils' Advocate"...

I think the crux of the issue isn't so much the fact that the alleged Mr. G. might have got caught with his hand in the cookie jar--- I think the bigger issue is: were his practices and actions known by higher-ups? Did they appreciate the fact that Mr. G. was producing & so did they maintain a "don't ask, don't tell" type of attitude?

I feel for the CRESTRON people who lost contracts to this sleazeball (IF in fact, he did it that is)...

I just find it a little surprising that this sort of thing could go on, without SOME knowledge or SUSPICION on the part of co-workers or superiors.

Apologies in advance if this is not the case... but I'll bet there will be a pretty thorough investigation.
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
Frank Lloyd Wright
Post 27 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 21:54
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Perhaps you didn't know about this:

AMX Sues Crestron's Exclusive MDU Partners for Racketeering and Theft of Trade Secrets (9/5/2006)

Cimax USA, LLC (Cimax) and Vertical Integration Group (VIG) were among a number of parties sued on Friday, May 5, 2006 in United States Federal Court in Miami, Florida for, among other things, violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), conspiracy, fraud, and theft of trade secrets. AMX(R) LLC (AMX) brought the lawsuit against Cimax, VIG, and a number of defendants, including the owners, based on various fraudulent acts and to enjoin the defendants from disclosing AMX trade secrets.
Alan Slawter-
AMX ACE, Crestron IM,
Post 28 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 21:59
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The history goes back further, but I don't know the facts well enough to quote; just don't think there are any angels in the business world...
Alan Slawter-
AMX ACE, Crestron IM,
Post 29 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 21:59
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Alan it appears that you work with both of the above mentioned crooks. :)
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Post 30 made on Monday March 31, 2008 at 22:06
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I just write code for both platforms. I have a lot of friends in both houses and I think it's terrible.
Alan Slawter-
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