any word on being able to link processors in the future ?
it would be nice to have a few different surround zones
each with their own processor . .

also, it looks like the PLX3 will have an optional antenna extender . .
but its wireless only? no way to hardwire extenders ?

IT'S PTX3!!! I normally don't care, but its hard enough to remember all the parts, then you keep confusing me. =)

I have heard them talk of intrasystem communication, but it will be limited. It sounded to me like it would be more for just basically having more control ports, but won't add the ability to have more than the current maximum number of Controls in a system.


I think they just have to. The PLX2 is OEM'd and it just isn't working well. I know for sure you can't have a PLX2 and a PTX3 on the same system b/c of issues with the PLX2.

I heard a rumor that they'd come out with a replacement for the PLX2, probably different form factor and built by Crestron.

I guess you could do to systems now, if they are controleld via IR. Each IR port can drive 3 emiiters, so that's 15 devices. Put it all in-one rack or run a connection block. It might work, might not, theoretically it would.

so . . you are saying that you love the PLX3 ?!?!

heh . . ok ok PTX3 got it got it . .


very interesting to know that the PLX2 wont work well on same system.

It's not that it won't work well, but it will not work at all. In the programming you will have to tell the processor if you are using a PTX3 or PLX2 and the processor will not allow both.

Because Crestron made the software this way b/c what I heard is that when PLX2 and PTX3 are on a system together, within 24-48 hours things start locking up.

That very well could be.

bastards. such an unfinished system . .
its got a lot of potential for small budget systems.

its just not there quite yet.

anyone know if radiora 2 will work with prodigy?
i know it will "work" but - 2way?

I feel your pain Motech.

I think the struggle is that RTI just came out with easy for you and I to implement 2-way control features, but we know what Prodigy is really capable of. The DA, lighting and tstat made Prodigy an easy winner. Throw in iPhone/touch control, xpanel and remote access and it just kicks ass.

However, it's still not quite there like you say. Especially with Radio RA2 being so much more affordable. Unfortunately for RTI, i think they completely missed the mark with the ZRP6. Sure RTI has some cool 2-way features for us, but it starts at nearly a $3k system. The ZRP6 is more lacking in drivers than the XP8 and is very limited with just two 2-way ports.

So, do like i'm trying to do, accept Prodigy for what it is, because it works as it is and is still the BEST solution for one room control systems and even works good for DA. Start putting them in and getting familiar with it. Remember that you can always pay a programmer to trick it out for you.

I'm looking at a small system where I will just be using a PMC2 and PTL4.

Where it really falls short for me is when you get close to the budget for a XP8. Then its just not enough, but that's when you should probably be selling Series 2 hardware anyway, since they have a very popular processor that sales for the same price as an XP8.

i think thats prodigy is having the exact effect that crestron is looking for.
i am now turning towards adagio - im heading to crestron experience center next week to talk to tech's in person and find out limitations of each system.

after researching adagio - it looks like our new goto system for mid-higher end jobs

Does anyone here know if the P-MNETGW is interchangable with the C2N-PMNETGW?

Thanks

Duh! This is the issue when opening products to folks who are not ready for it. Why would it not be Prodigy ready? Prodigy is a processor. If you can write the code and get the code into the processor you can control it.

There is always some overhead but a well written module ought not to take much processor overhead. The current Homeworks module is about as inefficient as might be written and it takes up very little memory.

The trick is not if it can be controlled but where the module is coming from. Crestron and Lutron are not on speaking terms. Crestron's not going to write it. Doesn't mean you could not yourself or pay someone to do it for you.

Personally, I would not use a Prodigy sysetm with more than 18 dimmers. But if you are Prodigy only and have a larger system write the module, or pay someone else to write it just like any other product where there is not module for the device in the Cresdb.

Anything will work with Prodigy, if you can write the code. I wrote a module of Grafik Eye QS. I haven't seen the Radio Ra2 protocol. Everything is controllable. Essentially, button press and led feedback is hardly memory intensive.

Alan

But small systems are how it's being marketed. Crestron has other systems for larger systems. If you are Prodigy only I suppose you're in a bind in terms of system size. But Crestron clearly has a marketing strategy that is designed not to canibalize existing product sales.

This is why I do not think Prodigy was aimed at C4. I do think it was aimed at Niles, URC, RTI and similiar systems. The limitations are not in the processor. The Prodigy processor has more memory and speed than the Adagio processors. In the first place they don't want less than qualified dealers biting off more system than the dealer can deal with as was very typical with Adagio systems. Secondly, Crestron expects its dealers not to be stupid, all evidence to the contrary. They expect you to know when to go with a full 256 mips processor and when to design down. Since too many deales could not do this Crestron is doing it for you by limiting what can and cannot be done.

I do not think it's unfinished--even if ESIC will later be added to it. It's already been "hacked" which means it's been done but will not be Crestron supported. It will be added at some point but every Prodigy only dealer gets the same advice from me and that is to go slow, learn the Product and the software before attempting large systems or systems with a lot of integraton.

Alan

Mr Brad,

So do you have this setup as a semi-protable demo? Do you just have some random lights wired up to the switches, or is this in a showroom?

We are tyring to decide if we want to attempt to create a portable demo. We were looking at using pretty much the same things that you have. We have a Denon 1910 in stock and a PAMP on the way, plus our Demo kit.

Now that you've had it for a bit, what are your thoughts? Would you change up your demo in any way?

I would do a receiver with a serial connection (Such as Denon or Marantz) so you get station feedback from radio.