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controlling pools and irrigation (crestron systembuilder)
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Post 1 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 15:57
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we are looking to control a pool and an irrigation system.

the pool seams like we are ok,
as we see a jandy drive in the system builder module database.

i cant seem to find anything for irrigation though.

anyone have any recommendations ?
ive never controlled either of these.
OP | Post 2 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 16:01
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i do see a rain net module on crestrons site but not sure if its system builder compatible and im not sure who rain net is. though i didnt know who jandy was either until recently.

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Post 3 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 16:46
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depending on the number of zones you could control the system valves with relays and event scheduler in systembuilder. Hokie but it would work
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Post 4 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 18:19
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rain net is decent stuff, used them several times.
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Post 5 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 18:30
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For irrigation we use a DIN-8SW8 combined with the Din AP2. Wire each output of the 8SW8 to each valve of the irrigation system allowing for ON/OFF and can also create schedules and timers programming in D3. Now depending on the irrigation system you may only be able to use 1 valve at a time (which is our scenario) but we have a schedule for the 48 valves to run throughout the night to ensure they are working. Throughout the day the owner can control each valve from the GUI's and we haven't had any problems with the system. Although there is quite a bit of programming the first time it is worth it if you will be doing this over and over again.
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Post 6 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 18:41
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Rain Net and Jandy are both awesome.
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Post 7 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 18:42
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On March 17, 2011 at 18:30, SWOInstaller said...
For irrigation we use a DIN-8SW8 combined with the Din AP2. Wire each output of the 8SW8 to each valve of the irrigation system allowing for ON/OFF and can also create schedules and timers programming in D3. Now depending on the irrigation system you may only be able to use 1 valve at a time (which is our scenario) but we have a schedule for the 48 valves to run throughout the night to ensure they are working. Throughout the day the owner can control each valve from the GUI's and we haven't had any problems with the system. Although there is quite a bit of programming the first time it is worth it if you will be doing this over and over again.

that is actually a much better scenario. i did this years ago with HAI and there 8-relay modules. now with the DIN-8SW8 i wouldnt think about doing it any other way. remember almost every irrigation system i have ever done has the master solenoid to energize the system, and then you can call the solenoid for each zone. ask the irrigation company for help with timing the solenoids and in between zones. you might want to offer them a nominal fee for there time consulting with you for a succesful project. it will give them a better feeling about dealing with you for the control of their system vs the standard rainbird etc controller that they are loosing their profit on not selling.
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Post 8 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 18:48
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to further that. you could mount the din8 in a plastic panel at the location the irrigation company would have used anyway. that way you are not freaking them out by making them do something they normally dont do. does the din 8 have buttons on it to manually trigger the relays? if so that would aid in the servicibility for the irrigation company. if not you could put an 8 button keypad near control box for manual calling of each zone, which isnt that bad of an idea for home owner either to overide schedule.

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Post 9 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 18:59
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Post 10 made on Thursday March 17, 2011 at 23:40
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On March 17, 2011 at 18:48, edizzle said...
to further that. you could mount the din8 in a plastic panel at the location the irrigation company would have used anyway. that way you are not freaking them out by making them do something they normally dont do. does the din 8 have buttons on it to manually trigger the relays? if so that would aid in the servicibility for the irrigation company. if not you could put an 8 button keypad near control box for manual calling of each zone, which isnt that bad of an idea for home owner either to overide schedule.

Yes the Din-8SW8 has manual buttons to trigger each relay with an LED to indicate that its state.

We use a can specifically for the irrigation system with the AP2 and the DIN-8SW8's located within.

The only reason we include the schedule is so that each valve is being used on a regular basis so that it doesn't seize up and water doesn't sit in one line for a long period of time. If I remember properly we have each valve run for 9 minutes. Since we can only have 1 valve on at a time this gives us 1 minute grace for the valve to close as they are not fast acting.
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