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Up-Converting DVD Vs. Blu Ray
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Post 16 made on Friday February 13, 2009 at 00:00
Herman Trivilino
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How does the upconversion of the Blu-ray compare to the upconversion of the Neodigits?
Origin: Big Bang
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Post 17 made on Friday February 13, 2009 at 07:35
kmlingenfelter
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Neodigits DVD player is not blue ray compatible. It simply ignores DVD copy protection code found in some older format DVD's (e.g. Hunt for Red October). These DVD's will not play at 480p or any other upconverted resolutions on "Sony Licensed" up converting DVD players. Thus you can up convert these older DVD's and enjoy them at higher resolution. I will not get into an argument over whether this higher resolution makes the picture any better. My old 80” Mitsubishi HDTV will only sync on 1080i on the HD input so the Neodigits player was my only option.

For Blue Ray DVD's, the poor souls who have older HDTV's without HDMI (like me) must use the HDFury. It sees the Copy Protection Code (HDCP software) and handshakes with the Blue Ray player so it will think it's sending video to a Sony licensed "Display Device". The HDFury accepts the video on the HDMI cable, sends back the handshake and then outputs the video in Component format (Y, Cr, Cb), the well known red green blue cables. You can plug the HDFury into your old component HDTV and see HDCP protected Blue Ray DVD’s at native resolution that otherwise will be down converted to 480i.

And for those who might be concerned all this is perfectly legal. If anyone wants to know why, I’ll post the reasons in another thread.
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Post 18 made on Friday February 13, 2009 at 09:13
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On February 5, 2009 at 04:35, thoupis said...
That is totally wrong. Being in Professional cinema business
for more than 16 years I can tell you that that statement
is so not correct. Getting down to basics.

35mm film negative has a far superior resolution than
any 2k or 4K production. 2K production is what Blue Ray
DVD is now offering. Standard DVD was offering a resolution
which was about an 8th or even a tenths of what the original
film negative was being produced. Blue Ray titles, take
the original film negative and downcovert it to 2K resolution
which is what Blue Ray offers and what actually todays'
D-Cinema is offering. The statement that original DVD
titles are upconverted to Blue Ray is totally wrong. The
standard DVD resolution can not have the definition seen
in the Blue Ray titles. Tell you what. Take a composite
signal and upconvert it to Component. What would be the
difference? Nothing. So taking a standard DVD and convert
it to Blue Ray there will be no difference so what is
the point of actually making this new High-Def format
anyway.

Films today are either being filmed on 35mm and usually
using 2K Digital technology to incorporate CGI effects
e.t.c. All Digital Animation is 2K resolution. 4K is in
the making steps for it to appear in professional cinema
but I doubt we will seen it anytime soon in Home Theater
applications. In any case, most producers who shoot Digitaly
their films are filming in 2K resolution so either watching
them in Digital Cinemas or standard theaters with 35mm
projectors will not see a difference.

Demetris
I have it all
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Post 19 made on Friday February 13, 2009 at 14:39
anyhomeneeds
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On February 9, 2009 at 13:45, erock1 said...

The bottom line, IMHO anyway is, a good upscaling player
can make a standard def dvd look better, some times much
better, no where as good as a well authored HD-DVD or
Blu-ray DVD to begin with.

That's all I have been trying to say. "well authored" HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Not all of the movies they were rushing out in high def were "well authored". IN the fight to see which format would win, they were rushing movies out and the quality wasn't always there.
"You can't fix stupid."
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Post 20 made on Sunday February 15, 2009 at 13:41
Stealth X
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wow. i cant believe this is even a discussion. anyone who thinks an upconverted DVD looks as good as a well authored BD needs glasses and wasted their $ on an HDTV to begin with.
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Post 21 made on Sunday February 15, 2009 at 14:39
smokinghot
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ya
....Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Post 22 made on Tuesday February 17, 2009 at 22:31
Anthony
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wow. i cant believe this is even a discussion. anyone who thinks an upconverted DVD looks as good as a well authored BD needs glasses and wasted their $ on an HDTV to begin with.

my guess is that they did not :)

i.e. person trying to talk himslelf (or others) out of upgrading -aka sour grapes
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