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What is the RF channel?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday February 7, 2006 at 21:54
Proven
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I have a DirecTV H20 (HD receiver) which has RF capabilities. Does anybody know what the channel needs to be set to for this? How do I go about finding it (without going through every channel setup possible?)
I have a ProntoNG TSU3000 running RF to an RF Extender emitting IR to all my other components in my AV closet. The H20 receiver is the only piece of equipment in the closet that is natively RF. I would like to be able to keep it RF, since it is not close to the RF Extender.
TSU 3000 Pronto NG w/RF Extender
Post 2 made on Tuesday February 7, 2006 at 22:24
Lyndel McGee
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Unless I'm very misinformed...

The DirectTV receiver cannot be directly controlled via RF transmitted by the Pronto.
As a result, you will need to use it in IR mode. The Pronto RF Extender converts Pronto RF into an IR Signal which your equipment uses.
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OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday February 7, 2006 at 22:26
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Thanks for the reply. If I am uderstanding correctly, there is no way to know what channel the H20 RF uses and use that seeting in the Pronto? I would have thought it would be possible, but I guess not.
TSU 3000 Pronto NG w/RF Extender
Post 4 made on Tuesday February 7, 2006 at 22:27
Peter Dewildt
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The purpose of the RF is to take an IR code, convert it to RF at a specific carrier frequency, transmit it to the Philips RF Extender, which then converts it back to the original IR. It is not for controlling RF devices.

If you have the capability you could modify the Pronto to operate at the frequency used by your H20, but then the RF Extender would not work.
Peter
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OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday February 7, 2006 at 22:34
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I completely understand now. The Pronto can not have the RF set for individual RF settings. It is set up only for the purpose of an RF Extender. Got it. Thanks for the prompt help/explanation.
TSU 3000 Pronto NG w/RF Extender
Post 6 made on Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 11:47
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On February 7, 2006 at 22:34, Proven said...
The Pronto can not
have the RF set for individual RF settings. It
is set up only for the purpose of an RF Extender.

When a person first sees "RF Remote," I am sure the thought is, "great! This will control my RF device!" However, it won't. This is the disappointing truth about EVERY RF system, not just the Pronto. It is made to talk to its other half, not to another device that uses RF. There are just too many variables about RF devices that are out there, just what their signals would be, their frequencies, and their type of modulation, to make such a product.

It happens that most of these remotes transmit in the range of 418 mHz, which happens to be cable channel 52, so rarely a cable box on 52 will receive interference from an RF remote system, but that is about as far as it goes.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 7 made on Wednesday February 15, 2006 at 04:08
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Control a RF device is possible with a pronto !
In Europe, Pronto use RF 433,92MHz, which is the same freq. as devices like intertechno (www.intertechno.at), the European version of the TM13 RF-to-X10 converter, some motorized screens, or even my motorized garage door :-p

The first thing to consider : to be sure that the freq is the same.
Then comes the learning of that freq. : the idea is to use a IR extender, which converts IR to RF, and then RF to IR. Just use the second part, and learn the IR with the pronto. Tell the pronto that this code must be sent via RF, and voilà ! :-D

Instead of an IR extender, you can also use a wireless video transmitter, which sends video one way, and sends back IR. If the carrier freq. for IR is the same as your equipment and your pronto, it can work. Video carrier freq is 2.4Ghz, IR carrier freq is rarely given, it is 433,92MHz here in Europe

Last edited by wheely30km on February 15, 2006 04:48.
Yes, you CAN learn RF with a RU950/RU980 :-)


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