I done all the install work for the home system, but haven't had time to program the Nevo.

I asked a local shop to get a price quote on configuring the Nevo for $450, which seems very high to me.

Is this reasonable? Should I go back to try to program this thing? How much time has it taken others to completely program from scratch?

I saw a thread about config files, but don't see those posted anywhere.

Thanks for your input!

That is about the right number, for a complete, customized config. You may find you can do it, but there is a time commitment, especially if you are learning the software as you go.

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Dave

You are the person suggesting the price of $450. I would like to hear from some unbias opinions.

Does the rest of the group feel like $450 is fair? It seems high considering it is almost half the cost of the device.

Has anyone else paid to have their remote configured?

HI Carrerra,

I suspected I was the one with the price quote. Not trying to double-quote you!

Thx Dave

I am not too sure how the Nevo SL base of dealers is meant to work outside of UK. Over here we are expect to provide basic programing in the price £650inc. tax. It's pretty much open after that shoul d a truly customised remote be required. On average I charge £100inc tax for macros however many they require (sounds quite open, but how many macros could u possibly need for a home cinema that requires a Nevo over say.... Xantech or Crestron). That price will not include network logo buttons.

Overall, UK is quite expensive. This is the first remote I have ever heard of where we are expected to provide basic programming for free/inclusive in retail cost

$450, thats roughly 4 hours of programming labor. to drive to your house, set up the pc, program the remote, test, reprogram, test, then train you on its use, pack up the pc and drive home or to the next job, oh and lets not forget cover the gas, insurance, wages, vehicle cost, training, and maybee put a little bit into the companys pockets. then lets not forget that there may be a service call somewhere down the line. If anything its a little low. I normally sell my T2+ at $1100-$1200 programmed and i have most of my devices created in a template format so i just have to merge the pages for my devices with my main project file and create the power and source macros


proggieus

If I paid for the programming, I would be at $1200 for the remote completed.

sounds about right, retail on the remote is $800.00
so really its about $400 for the programming.
dont take this the wrong way cause im not trying to be a d**K but those of us that own our companies sell "time" and unlike other inventory we cant sell more to make up for loss's. If you dont think its worth the $450 do it yourself or find someone that will do it for the price you think is fair, but remember you get what you pay for especially in programming of any kind. i could program a nevo to control all of your devices in five minutes and a phone call, however there will be no macros so every thing you want to do will be a discreet button push and you will have jump around from device to device to set up everything, in other word you might as well not have the nevo at all. the nevo or any other remote is only as good as the programmer. A good programmer can make a POS remote work like a dream and a bad programmer can make the best remotes worthless.


steping off the soap box
Proggieus

P.S the RTI T2+ has a retail of $599.00 so i charge $500-$600 for programming. and like i said i have most of my devices in templates but it still take me 2-3 hours to fully program a remote and test plus i have many many days of programming creating my templates, 2 plus days for one complicated 232 device alone. i have to make up that time on every remote i sell

No offense taken, just trying to make sure I'm paying a fair price. I usually would take on the challenge, but free time is limited right now.

I didn't have a gauge for the cost of this type of work, just a sanity check. No one likes to get screwed;)

Enjoy your evening!

I understand and most people dont realize the overhead a custom install company has. I hear what you are saying almost every day from my customers and most the time after explaining what i wrote here they are OK with my pricing.

Glad you didnt take offense

Keep this in mind,
ddarche is on this forum at 8pm Why? Because he takes the time to to read these posts to make himself a better programmer and to help those that are new make the most out of the systems we all install. He is dedicated to our industry and thats the kind of person i would want working on my system.

for the record i have never met or spoken to him but always seems ready to help. on the boards


Good Luck

Proggieus

Let me be one to describe my end user experience with the Nevo SL. I bought it on Ebay for a little over 600. Had the patience to learn the software (my only previous universal remote experience were Harmonys, which I really hate). It took me about 3-4 days to get everything working perfectly at about 2-3 hours a day. I was able to do basic and nifty things with it. Guess I saved myself $450. I highly doubt there are many things that custom installers can do with this remote that you cannot once you become comfortable with Nevo Studio.

So IMHO, save yourself the money and find a way to get it from non-installers. I have nothing against what they do, but this particular remote is not exactly rocket science, as long as you are patient and willing to learn.

Just my .2 cents.

I agree with PJMax15...Nevo and Nevo Studio is NOT rocket science but it IS a program that requires time and patience and will take the "average" DIY'er about an entire week (2 - 3 hrs/day) to get it configed the way you like.

The great thing about doing it yourself is that you LEARN how to do it and can understand what is being talked about in these forums and can apply newly learned tricks yourself in the future. Also, you can change, update anything you need when you need or want to instead of having to call the installer back out to do it. And what if the Nevo lost all its codes for some odd reason (this has happened to me with other programmable remotes) then you are at square one. All you would have to do is synch up your remote with NS and download your config.

I am biased because I am a DIY'er by design. I believe in attempting to do anything in life that you are "capable" of doing yourself, instead of paying someone to do it for you. I guess that's why all my neighbors call me the "handyman". :)

If you are a DIYer, go for it. If not, pay for some help. If you have equipment that has well behaved IR and full discretes, no problem. Keep in mind that not all commands are on your remotes nor in the UEI database, You may want to import some commands from Pronto or URC configurations. You may need those remotes to teach those commands to the NevoSL. You have to assess what kind of delays are needed in your macros. This is the basic stuff. Now you may want to trick it out a bit. You have to decide how deep you want to get into it. But if you're not up to it, you may just wind up with a paper weight

i was a little intimidated by the programming factor but, like you, was not keen in paying such a good chunk of change to program something i could hardly justify spending so much $ on in the 1st place!! and i am REALLY glad i didnt. i've found nevostudio a breeze to get through, and there is NO WAY i would have ended up with anything NEAR as personally customized as mine is. i have however put MANY hours into it, i would say at least 40, but actually enjoyed it. you'll find yourself thinking of cool new ways of setting up macro's, adding personal photos as backgrounds, whatever. as others said you could have something very simple in a matter of a few hours, its the customizing that is time consuming, but also will leave you the most satisfied with the end result. or you could spend the $450 and you will end up with something fairly generic with just simple activity macro's, and have to pay everytime you add a device or chnage something around on your TV inputs or whatever.

if you can navigate windows and the basic functions of your PC easily then you should find Nevostudio quite intuitive and easy to get the hang of.

if you like, send me an email and i can email you my configuration -you'll find my email add in my profile.

all the best, Christian

I hate to say it but, unless you have a very small system, $450 sounds inexpensive to me. My base price for programming a remote is $120 per device programmed into the remote... want more stuff automated... pay more money. So, if you're running a receiver, DVD player, VCR, TV, and set top box, you're already way under what I charge.