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A few 950 questions
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Post 1 made on Wednesday August 17, 2005 at 15:48
KCThirstyEar
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1) When you go to File > New, and select either option Blank, or Default, I cannot get either "Create & Name Devices" or "Edit Buttons" to function after this. anyone else had this problem? I have to overcome by saving the default "demo.mxi" file and reloading that each time

2) On the "Press & Hold" macros, I'm having a few problems executing these. I'm attempting to use the same code on both the "Before" and "After" phases of a P&H macro, but with different repeats. not having much success. I put a code in the "Before" phase, then switch to the "After" phase, place a code there, then when you switch back to before, the code from "After" is listed right below the code in the macro sequence. Is this suppose to happen? I tried deleting that code, and the "After" code didn't dissapear. But it still doesn't work. Is what I'm doing even possible on the 950? It is on the 3000, 'cause I use this trick all the time.

3) Due to the lack of a real "main" page on this remote (not a complaint, just a statement of fact), If you want a "Device Page" for clients to have direct access to devices without going through macros, what are some of your suggestions for this? Press & hold & page labeled "Device" are a couple of mine, just seeing if there is anything else that's super-creative out there, that I might rob and claim for myself. (kidding of course)
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Post 2 made on Wednesday August 17, 2005 at 17:09
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On 08/17/05 15:48 ET, KCThirstyEar said...

3) Due to the lack of a real "main" page on this
remote (not a complaint, just a statement of fact),
If you want a "Device Page" for clients to have
direct access to devices without going through
macros, what are some of your suggestions for
this?

If it makes you feel any better, I just learned yesterday that I could do this on my MX-700 and 800 after having had them for a lonnnnngggg time. Up until that, I was using 2 device slots for certain devices so I could have the option of using the macro or not. Obviously, that's not a very elegant solution. And yes, I'm still banging my head against the wall.
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday August 17, 2005 at 18:17
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nice. I've found solutions for this for everything else, including this one, I'm just looking for creative and new ways of doing things.
KC
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Post 4 made on Thursday August 18, 2005 at 10:58
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1) I'm not having that problem with mine. Both function with a new, blank setup.

2) Have to check that out. Haven't tried that macro for awhile. I seem to remember it working in beta.

3) In a way, there are two MAIN 1 pages, they're just named Watch and Listen. Also, you're getting as many of those as you want, not just two. You can either split the devices between the two or put the same access to all devices from both. I usually like to use the second (or third with the 950) page to put the devices and access them with the Page button, but I like the macro idea as well.

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Post 5 made on Thursday August 18, 2005 at 14:31
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Another feature the 950 doesn't have is favorites. Like most people, I use them for sound fields, aspect ratio, etc. rather than favorite channels. I guess the best solution is to just copy these commands to each one of my "activities" that needs them?
Post 6 made on Thursday August 18, 2005 at 21:47
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Fletch,

You could always create a device named "Favorites" and put your favorites there...255 possible pages of favorites...nice! :)



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Post 7 made on Thursday August 18, 2005 at 21:58
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Yeah, but the thing I like about Favorites (on the 700/800) is that it's nice for stuff that you want to access from multiple devices (or activities). From a given device, press FAV, press a FAV macro or 2, press MAIN and you're back to where you were. You can't do that with a device.

I think I'm going to try to set up something similar using macros with variables.
Post 8 made on Thursday August 18, 2005 at 23:28
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Oh, I totally agree about having the dedicated Fav button. It really does make channel surfing nice and easy.

Honestly, I don't like the "Watch" and "Listen" buttons that much, only because they could have been created on the LCD instead...and with 255 possible pages for each device, why waste precious hard button real estate on those? Granted, it creates an extra button press, but it's all relative to the user. "Main" and "Favorites" buttons would have been my personal preferences instead of them, so I'm with you on that.



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Post 9 made on Friday August 19, 2005 at 00:22
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On 08/18/05 23:28 ET, Control Remotes said...
Honestly, I don't like the "Watch" and "Listen"
buttons that much, only because they could have
been created on the LCD instead...and with 255
possible pages for each device, why waste precious
hard button real estate on those?

Agreed. It seems like an unnecessary effort to compete with Harmony and the "activity-based" trend. IMO, all the hype over activiy based remotes is kind of silly. Having a button labelled "watch TV" instead of "TV" isn't that much of a feature and ANY learning remote lets you mix commands from different remotes onto a given "device " -> hence activity-based.

I agree that I'd prefer to have "watch" and "listen" be programmable. I think many users will want the 950 for an HT which doesn't really need the "listen" button.
Post 10 made on Friday August 19, 2005 at 17:15
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I wonder if they could add the "Main + Device button" trick to the 950 via firmware upgrade? Of course, you'd have to make it "Listen + Device button" or "Watch + Device button" depending on which you were in. A little more involved, but it would still be nice to see it implemented as I like doing that better than press vs hold to opt out of macros.
Post 11 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 00:04
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Regarding the lack of a FAV button: I believe the 950 has the capability to return to the previous device page. This is actually more powerful than a FAV function, because it allows you to invoke, say, surround modes page and then return to the device you invoked it from. For anyone unfamiliar with the RTI remotes (which the 950 seems patterned after), this method does require some rethinking, as the previous MX models (except the 3000) lacked this capability, but it always seemed to me that FAV was a kludgey way to compensate.

Cheers,
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Post 12 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 00:28
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Philip I was checking out the 950 editor and I did not come across how to return to the previous device page. I alway use the fav button on my 850's and with the Mx-3000 I use the jump command to accompish the same thing, except as you stated in a much more powerful way.

Perhaps I just missed this feature on the 950 editor (I hope so).

I also agree with the comments on the watch and listen buttons.

Cheers

Pete
Post 13 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 11:25
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Agreed. I would love a "return to page" feature in the 950, but I can't find it.
Post 14 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 13:32
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I specifically asked about this when I was covering CES in January, and was told by one of the URC product reps that the MX-950 would definitiely have this capability. He said it was a limitation of the 700/800 series architecture that prevented a dynamic "return to previous page", but the new 950 design accommodated it. If he was telling the truth, the capability may not be documented clearly (it wasn't in the MX-3000 either at first and their engineers and marketing folks didn't seem to understand the importance of such a feature--I had to call their tech support and he had to research it and get back to me with the info on how it was implemented).

If the feature is not implemented in the 950 it would be a serious limitation, especially without a FAV-type page. I guess you'd have to make a duplicate of each "FAV" type page to invoke from and return to each device--what a mess. It would be a deal-breeaker for me. I can't believe URC are that dumb when other parts of the software are so well thought-out. Before giving up, I would contact their tech support staff and confirm that the feature isn't buried in there somewhere.

Good luck,
Philip Brandes
Post 15 made on Wednesday August 24, 2005 at 16:22
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Are the specialized jump functions that would include "return to previous page" the "Select From Default Jump" options listed in the MX-3000 editor's Jump window? Just by playing with it, it looks like "MyPage" is the selection that brings you back to the previous page. That along with the other selections look to be pretty useful.

As Philip said, it's not documented in the 3000's programming manual. Actually, I was trying to figure out the difference between the "Navigate -/+" and "Device -/+" specialized Jump options. Maybe if I play around some more I can figure it out.

I tried finding something similar in the 950 editor but couldn't as Pete mentioned. The icon used for Jump in the 3000 is labeled as "Goto Page" as it is in the 700/800 editor. The options in the 950 are limited to the same ones in the 700/800. Unless it is buried elsewhere, it would appear that the 950 is the same in this regard.
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