Hi Gurus,

I've searched and searched for the answer, but I am stumped!! I have a Sony Bravia KDL-40V2000 (Australia) and have an existing 520 remote and just bought a 785 so I can "retire" the 520 to the family room duties. Logitech's standard configurations for the Bravia V doesn't include discrete codes for anything above InputVideo3 although they are listed up to InputVideo8. There are no input codes that work for Component (listed in the TV as HD/DVD), HDMI nore RGB (PC). On the standard (very limited) remote you select inputs by scrolling or using the Menu/External Inputs; very tiresome.

Now, I have tried several other Logitech configurations such as X series which successfully have the Component and RGB inputs. By setting up the 520 with these, I have "learned" these into my V series codes (this suits the TV better than the other more extensive lists) on the 785. HOWEVER, InputHDMI just won't work on my V Series. There is no response from the LED on the TV to suggest the code is even recognised by the TV.

Finally the question... Has anyone out there got one of Logitech's Sony setups to set HDMI as a direct input? I've got all the others working and having the macro InputHD1 + InputNext has syncing problems that means I've had to increase delay times, and it's just darn slow to respond.

I've seen some HDMI codes in the Hunter forum but I haven't got a clue how that helps or if they even work with the V Series.

Anyone got some suggestions???? Grateful for any assistance. Thanks in advance.

Pfeff

Harmony 785, 520/Sony KDL-40V2000/Pioneer VS-816K/Pioneer DVR-530H/Sony DVP-NS76H/Pace 420 STB

Even if you find the discrete command, there is no guarantee your particular model will support it. My old Sony TV supports InputVideo1 to InputVideo6 but not InputVideo7. The next year model added support for the InputVideo7. So I use the InputVideo6 + InputNext in the Adjust Input Settings (direct method) and don't have a sync problem since I use the direct method (not the cycling method).

I have a 785 and a Sony 40V and i get a HDMI option....

Don't recall if i had to create the option or not though...in any case it goes direct to HDMI input when i select "Watch DVD". Setup pic below.

Are you using any of the other inputs ?

Hi Gutty,

WOW! The Logitech database setup for the 40V doesn't seem to have that. Can you tell me which Sony serial number you used when you set up the TV device, eg KDL-40V2000 etc...? Like jlet, I have to use InputVideo4 + InputNext to get to HDMI. Maybe you found the missing link?

Pfeff

Pfeff, I checked the database for your Sony KDL-40V2000 and your are right. The dataset for this model is very limited compared to the one for my old TV Model (KV-34XBR800) My dataset includes a few HDMI commands (InputHD1, InputHD2, InputHdmi). Try "Confirm IR language" (under Device > More Options). Maybe it will find a better match.

Thanks for taking the time to check that jlet! I've checked that and it returns that I am already using the best match. Interestingly, if I enter just KDL-40V, I get a more complete set of commands including Component, HDMI and RGB, but only the Component and RGB work; HDMI doesn't even get a flash from the LED on the TV. The rest of the commands don't match as well as the KDL-40V2000 set so I have used my other Harmony remote as a tool to learn the missing direct inputs then adjusted the input for HDMI to InputComponent + InputNext. This works of course but by the number of posts on the forum from users unable to select HDMI directly, it seems I am not alone with this problem. I can't even find a Pronto command key code to convert via the website to use. Sooner or later I'll find a solution or someone else will and then it'll be available to all.

Incidentally jlet, thanks also for your many other contributions to this forum. You have shared many good tips. One I'd never considered was the benefit of using Power On and Power Off directly verses PwrToggle. This saves a lot of syncing issues when device is on when it should be off and vice versa.

Gutty... I really would like to know if you were really able set up HDMI as a direct input or whether you have used InputCompenent or InputHD1 + InputNext, because I simply cannot see how it can be done directly! If you have found a way then there would be many other users who would appreciate you sharing the method you used.

Thanks Guys,

Pfeff

Add my TV set (KV-34XBR800) to your configuration and check (in device mode) if your set will responds to one of the 3 HDMI commands (InputHD1, InputHD2, InputHdmi).

Jlet, no Luck I'm afraid. As with other similar sets, InputHD1 activates the component input (unnumbered but labeled "HD/DVD" and 4th in the scroll series), InputHD2 gets a flash from the LED on the TV indicating that the sets "sees" the command, but does nothing with it and InputHDMI fails to get any indication that the set even sees the incoming command. As in the other setups, InputComponent1, InputComponent2 and InputHD1 result in HD/DVD (component) being selected.

Incidentally that "strangled" setup logitech have for the KDL-40V2000 you tried for me, doesn't even have Inputs for HD/DVD (Component) or PC (RGB) let alone HDMI, like most of the other configurations. As indicated in earlier posts, I've added these manually. The HDMI remains the one missing link. Bah!!!

Pfeff

Also try all the InputVideo1 to InputVideo8 commands from my TV device.

Tried that too... I've even tried the InputVideo9 by converting the Pronto code from their file area. In all cases, anything above Video3 fails to get any action and above 6 there is no response from the LED. Seems strange that Sony would change the remote codes when they already have HDMI in earlier TV's and the V has just a single HDMI input where the S has two.

It really does look like Sony have introduced a new code in the newest series. And without a direct input method on the orginal remote we are stuck with a "make do" method. It works; and I don't have to rely on the scroll method of the original remote. Gee, you'd think with tuner and 6 external inputs to choose from, someone at Sony would realise customers don't want to take 10-15 seconds scrolling through inputs especially as it can take a couple seconds for each input change. I can and have set up "skips" but as I use 3 inputs plus the tuner regularly, scrolling would be tedious if it were not for my Harmony.

Probably should get off my soapbox now.

If you visit this site [Link: hifi-remote.com], you will notice there is no code for HDMI. You will also notice the code for Video 7 (DVI) is not grouped with the ones for Video 1-6. The codes for Video 8-9 are also not grouped with the other ones. The author of that site also say "Why did Sony put some of there newer functions here, and some on 151? It doesn’t make sense!".

Yes, I've seen that post.

I've sent an email requesting codes from Sony. Be interesting to see what happens...

I've seen elsewhere that others have emailed Logitech on the problem too. Be interesting to know if they watch this forum as it would be a good way of determining upgrades and fixes they could incorporate to their good range of remotes.

Does anyone watching this thread have a Sony remote (or other brand) that selects HDMI directly? If so, we'd be interested in hearing from you. We may be able to steer Logitech towards a solution.

I stumbled across another workaround off the dtvforum from Australia where some guy has found a way to make macros to send station channel numbers (more than one number) and assign to the remote keys. Apparently using the custom/raw learning tool, you can key more than one key press in sequence so long as they follow closely. I tried this on my 520 last night and it works, but there is not enough delay between the InputComponent and InputNext to go to the next input, but as it goes to HDMI ONCE the Component is already selected, it does record more than one key press. Tonight I will try to add a few unrecognised key presses between the two to act as a delay and see how it goes. Adjusting the delay programatically doesn't fix. This way I should be able to allocate the macro to a key. I'll post tonight to advise how this goes. Still not perfect but at least it should mean I can select HDMI with just one key press and have a psuedo fix...

Regards

Pfeff

Guys, I think Gutty has the solution (workaround)!!!!!!!!!!

Gutty, you using the skip between Tuner and HDMI gave me the clue!. I know that's all you use so I didn't see it initially as the solution because I use 4 of the inputs, only skipping the ones I don't use.

Seeing as we can select everything except HDMI directly and "skip" only affects the scrolling... If we "skip" everything but the HDMI (and Tuner which can't be skipped), then logically InputNext will ALWAYS go to HDMI from any other input except PC (which is the one after HDMI and before Tuner) which I don't use anyway...YES? The Harmony will go to the other inputs as normal using the discrete codes and HDMI is the only stopping point other than the Tuner which can also be selected directly.

This method won't be help to users with RGB in their mix of inputs, but are many of us using RGB anyway?

I'll try this tonight and report back although I will try the macro theory from my previous post too. Gosh I hope one of these works... My wife is sore about me fiddling with the remote, laptop and TV and not having time for other stuff like talking and romance!!! Hmmmm ... almost forgot what that's like since I got the Harmony!

Pfeff

UPDATE: The skip does exactly as expected... By setting skip for every input except HDMI, InputNext assigned to HDMI and using discretes for the rest, I've got the closest thing to direct inputs as possible.

Still want the code and someday we might get them...

Pfeff

Sorry for the late reply. I think you got it right though, i do only use the HDMI input as i have an upconverting AVR. All other inputs are set to "skip" and my harmony is simply set to "NextInput".

Sorry about the confusion....

I do agree, it's rather stupid on Sony's part not having a direct input selection.