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Denon 4308 codes?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 19:11
Stephane
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Fine salesman sold a 4308 for multi zone app with Elan Via6.4s. OEM remote has toggling commands for a few inputs (as they don't have enough sources buttons???)
Would anyone care for sharing a file?(pronto, Elan,RTI,Niles)
Thx in advance
Post 2 made on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 20:08
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If you want to write you own hex, here is the link.


[Link: usa.denon.com]
J.Todd
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 20:54
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On October 30, 2007 at 20:08, J.Todd said...
If you want to write you own hex, here is the link.

[Link: usa.denon.com]

Thanks, I've searched the CDN site without success...

It really amases me why companies would have different infos depending if you're from USA or Canada???

now I'll be searching for instructions to use this PDF
Post 4 made on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 21:04
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Does someone know a way to convert these into hex form? Any help is appreciated.
TIA
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 21:29
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On October 30, 2007 at 21:04, TitaniumEye said...
Does someone know a way to convert these into hex form?
Any help is appreciated.
TIA

looks like it's going to take a while...
you need to convert this binary code into a hexcode, where in our case
0=000a 001e and 1=0046 000a
this is wath I understand so far...

Johnsfine would be the person for explaining (i'm shure he already did many times! I just can't find that thread...)
Post 6 made on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 22:11
tweeterguy
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Do you carry URC remotes as well. The IR DB has the 4308 with just about every IR command anyone will probably ever need including preset volumes, direct inputs for xm, net, usb, etc. for all zones. You could learn to elan that way.
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday October 31, 2007 at 08:53
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On October 30, 2007 at 21:04, TitaniumEye said...
Does someone know a way to convert these into hex form?
Any help is appreciated.
TIA

found some explanation [Link: remotecentral.com]
Post 8 made on Wednesday October 31, 2007 at 11:33
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This very easy with Denon codes.

There are two protocols: Denon-Sharp and Kaseikyo

To convert sharp codes:

We will use the main zone HDP input as an example.

The system address(C1~C5) = the device code.
For example... 01000... convert from binary to decimal using a scientific calculator (windows calculator works) by entering the binary form from right to left (least significant bit first) and then view the decimal form. So... 00010 = device code 2.

The Data (C1-C5) + the extention bit (C12, C13) = the function code.
For example... 010100 + 11 do the same process as described above. So... 11001010 (backwards binary) converts to function 202 (192+10 for astute observers).

HDP is Sharp device 2 function 202.

The Data determines codes 0-63. The extention bit determine a range for the 64 codes starting at 0, 64, 128, 192 for a total of 256 possible codes for each device number.

To convert Kaseikyo codes:

The binary strings are longer creating many more code possibilities, however, the process remains the same.

Let's convert the Main zone XM input code...

Genre1 = Device code left digit... 0010 (entered 0100) = 4
Genre2 = Device code right digit... 1000 (entered 0001) = 1
Device code = 4.1

The function code = Data + ID
So... input XM in the main zone... data=0101001101 + ID=00...
enter 001011001010 (you can leave off the leading zeros if you want) which converts to decimal 714.

So... main zone XM input is Kaseikyo device 4.1 function 714

given the longer length of these codes the data gives you a possible 1024 (0-1023) codes and the ID provides a range for these codes starting at 0, 1024, 2048, and 3072 for a possible 4096 codes for each device number.

NOW... if you have figured out how to use make hex which is available as a download from the pronto utilities files section on this site, there is support for both of the protocols. Simply open the Denon-Sharp or Denon-K .irp file, edit the text pertaining to the device code and function range as needed and drag the file onto the application. All of the codes for the device specified in the range specified will be generated. Simply assign the commands to the codes generated using the device and function information you already will have figured out.

All this said... I have already created a comprehensive documentation of all of the codes for he 3808 and 4308 including the four receiver ID settings which has easy to use hyperlinks to find various code sets, however, it is not quite complete yet (it is a very large file). I will give a shout when it is done but between the fact that I use 232 for 99% of my Denon work and the fact that I have work bleeding out my ears right now, I can not tell you when I will finish it.

BTW... a huge thank you to John Fine and many others for their knowlege, experience, time and willingness to educate us all on these subjects.
Post 9 made on Wednesday October 31, 2007 at 11:41
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There is a ready-to-go Denon IR tool in the Pronto NG forum. You supply a handful of the elements from the Denon IR doc and it spits out the hex code, ready to be pasted into most editors. It produces pronto code which is quite portable.

The link seems too long to paste here. Goto Files, Pronto NG forum, Utilities and Documents, IR Programs, Paul Freidlander.



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Post 10 made on Wednesday October 31, 2007 at 13:59
tgrugett
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On October 31, 2007 at 11:41, ddarche said...
There is a ready-to-go Denon IR tool in the Pronto NG
forum. You supply a handful of the elements from the
Denon IR doc and it spits out the hex code, ready to be
pasted into most editors. It produces pronto code which
is quite portable.

The link seems too long to paste here. Goto Files, Pronto
NG forum, Utilities and Documents, IR Programs, Paul Freidlander.

Dave

This only works for the Sharp protocol codes. it will not work with the Kaseikyo codes. Denon seems to using Kaseikyo codes for all new features and functions.

Many of the same codes from the 06 and 07s will work for the 08 series, however, some tuner commands, new inputs and others have been altered and now use only kaseikyo codes.
Post 11 made on Wednesday January 9, 2008 at 02:24
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Are there any Discretes for the the HDRadio/FM/AM?

Been having a heck of a time with the URC codes too. The 4308 seems to lock on the preset a-g's, tune+-, presets, preset -+, AM and FM.

The Gui was real jiggy going from one station to the next in the Netradio too.

Wasted a lot of time today. Frustrating with a lot of support seemingly away at CES.

Did the update.

Do I need to go back and reset the receiver and re-update?

Thanks guys
Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er..
Post 12 made on Wednesday January 9, 2008 at 03:07
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Make sure to first do a microprocessor reset and then a full firmware update. If your firmware is first run, there is a full rewrite available that fixes MANY bugs from the first run. As far as the URC codes go, I have no idea what the quality of those codes are.
Post 13 made on Wednesday January 9, 2008 at 10:05
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On January 9, 2008 at 03:07, tgrugett said...
Make sure to first do a microprocessor reset and then
a full firmware update. If your firmware is first run,
there is a full rewrite available that fixes MANY bugs
from the first run. As far as the URC codes go, I have
no idea what the quality of those codes are.

Thanks.

How do you do a microprocessor reset?

Is it covered in the manual?

er.. nevermind. Got it.

Now too chase down the other stuff.

Last edited by Steve Garn on January 9, 2008 12:08.
Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er..
Post 14 made on Saturday January 12, 2008 at 08:11
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does page 5 have no codes ???? this page is emty is this correct or is the data corrupt ?

only 2 boxes with device code 8 the other 2 and 12 have all 4 boxes
Post 15 made on Saturday January 12, 2008 at 11:59
Steve Garn
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Tgrugett,

Maybe I missed something. I think the receiver is doing better now that I did the "hold two upper left buttons inside door.." etc. Is that the FULL microprocessor reset?



I discovered that the URC codes were pretty much out to lunch so far as the HD/FM/Net commands go. Denon uses seperate discrete codes (including mem, station banks, tuning etc) for each of these inputs. These were all mixed up. All those codes needed consolidating too for an 850. They used up way to many devices on Main Page 2.

Still looking for a discrete FM and HDRadio input (that doesn't toggle to AM). So far it's just the anchor to A-1 after the FM or HDRadio to keep it on FM.

Pharados,

What boxes and pages are you referring to?
Manuals?! We don't need no stinking manuals! a.. er..
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