look at page 5 it is emty. i think there is something missing or i'm wrong ?

what i notices where is for Remote ID1 the command "Night" ?

Like many, I'm also fighting to learn hex codes for my Denon 4308. I followed along with Tgrugett's example above, but got a little concerned when the code he used for the Device Code left and right digits (Genre 1 and Genre 2) did NOT match the Genre codes I'm seeing for switching to XM in Denon's PDF of discrete codes for the 4308, located at [Link: usa.denon.com].

In that document, I'm seeting Genre1=1110 and Genre2=1010 for XM. I worked my way through the rest of the example using these numbers (which leads to Device 7.5, instead of the example's 4.1), and generated a hex code that bears little resemblance to the one learned by my remote, and which doesn't work (though the learned code does). So what did I miss? What am I reading wrong in Denon's code listing?

Obviously, my real problem isn't in generating an XM code; my learned code works. I was just following the example. The learned code that does NOT work is the switch to DAB/HD RADIO (the name in the IR code document), learned from the DTU key on the remote. As it turns out, that's Function 715 (vs. XM's Function 714. used in Tgrugett's example).

So in an act of faith and desperation, I plugged in Tgrugget's Device 4.1 and Function 714 to MkHex and generated a code that *does* successfully switch to XM. With that encouragement, I plugged in Device 4.1 and Function 715, and generated hex code that *does* switch to HD Radio (hex code below for anyone else searching).

So, I solved my presenting problem, but would still like some education as to what I'm reading incorrectly in the PDF document referenced above. If I can't figure out the Genre1 and Genre2 codes correctly, then the rest of the example is pretty much a dead-end for me.

And for those who came here searching for the switch to Denon 4308 HD Radio hex code, here it is:

0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

--Gene

I too am having trouble with Denon's new K codes. I can't figure out how to make a code for "Night Mode" for instance. Hopefully someone will post a PCF soon.

Gene,

Somehow I missed your post earlier this week. I am out working today but I will get back to this and respond soon. I am glad you got it working.

You are looking at the ID#3 code set which indicates genre 1=1110 and genre2=1010 which is device 7.5 and not the ID#1 code set. The ID#1 code set shows the information I specified. Take another look at it and you will see.

There are four ID sets for controlling multiple like devices in a common area The receiver can be set to respond to any of the four ID sets in the setup menu. Somehow you were looking at the wrong ID documentation.

For some reason the Night code for ID#1 is not documented. I see that it is documented for the other ID sets, however.

Try this...
Sharp d-4, f-152
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

or this...
Kaseikyo d-4.1, f-546
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0ACE

For anyone following along, I came up with my code (Genre 1: 1110 and Genre 2: 1010) for the XM radio function looking at Page 8 of the aforementioned PDF. That seems to indicate to me that it *is* remote ID 1, but the same XM Genre codes are listed for every Remote ID (1-4), so apparently I don't understand what that page is trying to tell me.

In any case, what you're telling me is that I need to be getting my Genre codes starting on page 9 of the document, where the Genre 1 code is listed in the top right corner of the page, Genre 2 in the left column, and then the rest of the data to the right of that.

So, now I understand it, and will be printing this thread (and that code PDF) to be stored with my Denon manual for future reference.

Thanks for all the help!

--Gene

Page 8 for the 4308CI documentation clearly indicates device 4.5 for XM radio in the right hand column but the binary representation appears to be a typo or misprint.

Please disregard my statement in my last post about device 7.5 being synonomous with ID set #3. I responded in haste and I was mistaken.

Take the decimal documentation in the right hand column on page 8 as the accurate device number for each function set.

The perhaps non obvious fact in the documentation is that all of the Kaseikyo function codes for IDs #2-4 are mapped the same relative to eachother within each ID code. ID#1 is somewhat different because it uses a mix of the older Denon-Sharp protocol and the newer Kaseikyo protocol. Each of the four ID codes (accurately listed on page 8 and only applicable to the kaseikyo codes!) place each ID set in a different range of function numbers:

ID#1 = 0-1023
ID#2 = 1024-2047
ID#3 = 2048-3071
ID#4 = 3072-4095

To test this, combine the binary function codes with the desired ID code to convert to the proper decimal representation of the function code.

Examples:

Return (ID#1): data 0100010000 + ID 00 converts (as described earlier) to 34
Return (ID#2): data 0100010000 + ID 10 converts to 1058 (1024 + 34)
Return (ID#3): data 0100010000 + ID 01 converts to 2082 (2048 + 34)
Return (ID#4): data 0100010000 + ID 11 converts to 3106 (3072 + 34)

I have been following this thread to understand how to convert the Denon documented IR codes and have had some success for my UK AVR4308. This has a built in DAB tuner that replaces HD Radio, so I would expect most codes to work the same as a USA model.

However I have had problems with some of the Sharp codes and some of the Kaseikyo codes too, which lead me to believe that the documention may be wrong or that the codes for the UK model have small differences.

For example the Sharp codes for Cursor Left, Cursor Right when converted using IRCodeGenerator work fine, but Cursor Up and Cursor Down do not. (Also the three Main Volume Preset codes excute to the same level i.e 0dB).

I then tried to implement Cursor Up and Cursor Down as Main Zone K-codes, but try as I might using the MakeHex utility I cannot get them to function, yet the code for Return is OK. This is odd since they are very similar to one another. Return is device 4.1 funtion 34, Up and Down are 27 & 28. Again suggesting that the document is somehow wrong.

If anyone has come across similar problems, I wonder what their solution has been?

I just had a quick scan through this thread so forgive me if this has already been covered...

I came across this a couple of weeks ago. I just learned the codes from the smaller multi-zone remote that comes with it. It has discrete codes for all inputs over all 4 zones! That way, the toggling commands don't even come in to it.

Hope this helps..

Robbie.

Greetings all. After having read a dozen or so threads on discrete codes for the Denon 4308 (and related platforms), I'm still not sure if a PCF/CCF has been posted, or if I need to use the utilities available to create my own set. Can anyone confirm the existance (or not) of a Denon IR file for Prontos?

Thanks as always.

This is a good thread. I never really took the time to figure out the manual understanding and converting/writing. I always simply learn it into my pronto. Hell that really the only reason why I have this stupid thing. It makes life tons easier when building complicated remotes.

Hi, Don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if it's normal but when I put in the denon codes into prontoproedit ng the code changes. If I put the following code in

0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0ACE

and then close it and then go back in the code now says it is

0000 0071 0000 0032 007F 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0AAB

Is this normal