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Whole House DSL Filter
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Post 1 made on Friday May 19, 2006 at 23:31
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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This comes from another thread; the subject is DSL:

On May 17, 2006 at 10:15, tschulte said...
3.) When I talked to the wife she said she didn't
want he dangling filters at every phone. I told
her we normally put one filter on the incoming
line in the enclosure. This way it filters the
whole house. The teleco tech says that can't be
done, because the little dangly filter isn't "big
enough" to filter the whole house. But his would
and it was only $85 plus $85 to put it in.

Great idea! I figured this out about a year ago, and use one filter on every house or office.

But does someone make a filter just for this purpose? The single-phone donglies, while they will work, have modular connectors and are made to be plugged into the wall. To use a dongly at the phone blocks, I install three surface-mount jacks:
a) one comes from the incoming phone line and goes to the DSL modem
b) the second is for plugging in the dongly,
c) I then make a 3" long dual-male modular cable and install another jack for the filtered output.

The output of that last jack feeds the jacks in the house.

Does somebody make a DSL filter with screw terminals on it, and maybe a jack for modular wiring to the DSL modem? It wouldn't have to be terribly cheap to beat this setup because it can take 3/4 of an hour to wire up this mess. It looks hokey, too, but works like a champ.
We can't give you a good answer, or maybe any, without the make and model of everything.
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Post 2 made on Friday May 19, 2006 at 23:38
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Leviton makes it. It's readily available at home depot.
Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic!
Post 3 made on Friday May 19, 2006 at 23:51
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I use the "dongly" and put RJ11 ends in the demarc box to make it work. I seperate the telephone line (blue pair) vs t he DSL line (brown pair) in the demarc box.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Post 4 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 00:12
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How about this..

[Link: onqlegrand.com]

I just mount the DSL modem/router in the can with the phone, run the line in and use the phone jack out to feed the house. Then I feed the house network from there as well.
Post 5 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 00:22
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the leviton is punchdown

Seems like I read somehwere that the teclo provided splitter wasn't rated for the whole house. I know it will work, but should it be done?
Post 6 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 00:29
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Try this one, or the one just below it:
[Link: hometech.com]

And here's the Leviton splitter:
[Link: hometech.com]
Post 7 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 00:50
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I've had a few of the 'supplied dongles' fail when using them in front of a distribution block.

Replaced the dongles with the Leviton.

No more fuzzy phone calls asking for help!
Every day is a good day.......some are just better than others!
Post 8 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 08:38
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Dlink make good ones, they have 2 types worth looking at
DSL-10SP
DSL-10CF [Link: dlink.com.au]
Post 9 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 12:42
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With Fios in this area... whats DSL. Fios is way faster and the reliability is better than cable on the installs we have done for internet. Have yet to get back to the TV install with FIOS. Seems that verizon had not brought a line from the street yet.. oops.
Post 10 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 17:07
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I've been using the Allen Tel AT626DSL. It's a DSL splitter, giving a set of phone terminals or and Data terminals out. It is all housed in a 4" x 6" x 3" Plastic box.
I buy them though Graybar. $22.79 .... They work great.
OP | Post 11 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 17:09
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Part of the idea here was to use the correct kind of connectors with any given wire, and vice versa.

The Leviton wins in my book.

On May 20, 2006 at 00:12, cma said...
How about this..
[Link: onqlegrand.com]

I just mount the DSL modem/router in the can with
the phone, run the line in and use the phone jack
out to feed the house. Then I feed the house network
from there as well.

Do you take pairs from CAT5 and crimp them into modular connectors (possibly flaky connections, and not the wire intended for that connector), or do you take a modular cable and punch down its multistranded wires (possibly flaky connections, and not the wire intended for that connector)? The only correct solution for using this is to run short modular connectors to phone jacks, then take inside wire pairs from the screws to the punch block. That's pretty much what I do now, but it isn't such a pretty blue box.

It makes sense to have a modular jack for the modem connection because the modem has a modular jack.

On May 20, 2006 at 00:29, netarc said...
Try this one, or the one just below it:
[Link: hometech.com]

And here's the Leviton splitter:
[Link: hometech.com]

THIS ARE THEM! Almost. The Leviton is electronically perfect, with all the correct connections, but I wouldn't want an exposed PC board anywhere, even on the backboard. The hometech ones don't provide a modular jack for the DSL modem because they aren't intended for inside use, so they still need one modular jack or flaky modular connector wiring.

On May 20, 2006 at 12:42, Springs said...
With Fios in this area... whats DSL. Fios is way
faster and the reliability is better than cable
on the installs we have done for internet. Have
yet to get back to the TV install with FIOS. Seems
that verizon had not brought a line from the street
yet.. oops.

I've often wondered why people write responses like this. Maybe it's just to say how cool things are where they live, I don't know.

This is a thread asking for product information about phone lines and DSL. A response comparing FIOS to cable is about as meaningful as coming to a traffic intersection and seeing a purple light. I mean, it just doesn't relate.
We can't give you a good answer, or maybe any, without the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 12 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 17:16
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OnQ has a whole house filter also.

[Link: onqlegrand.com]
Why all the fighting and cussing? Can't Dave play nice? We're just here to learn and have fun. It was a harmless jab, laugh and get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW... S-E-A-R-C-H!!!
or do the work!!!
Post 13 made on Saturday May 20, 2006 at 18:52
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I don't know what your looking for but this part was made for splitting Phone and Data off a DSL Line and is what the Service providers use if you have them split services. [Link: allentel.com]
Post 14 made on Monday May 22, 2006 at 11:58
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Ernie;

Channel Vision # P-0411

Mike
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Post 15 made on Sunday September 2, 2007 at 01:55
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On May 22, 2006 at 11:58, avbydesign said...
Ernie;

Channel Vision # P-0411

Mike

WARNING!!! I have this unit installed and it severely attenuates the DSL Speed if you use it as directed(correctly connected [incoming line to "From Teleco"] and using the "DSL Modem" port to connect the modem). Even had a Telco DSL tech come out and verify the wiring -- his advice was not to trust any third party DSL splitters like this one.

Bypassing the Channel Vision P-0411 entirely at the demarc OR connecting just before the P-0411, I get 7Mbits/1Mbit. Plugging my DSL modem into the DSL Port on the Channel Vision box, get 512kbits/512kbits.

A big THUMBS DOWN on this unit.

Last edited by tkb on September 2, 2007 02:02.
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