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| Topic: | Bad Products/Good Products List This thread has 90 replies. Displaying posts 76 through 90. |
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| Post 76 made on Monday February 6, 2006 at 04:52 |
JLIntegra Long Time Member |
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Wow this a great thread. My few: Good: Epson, TruAudio, USTec, Denon, JVC HDILA, Fujitsu, Vidikron, ICE Cable, Screen Innovations, Sherbourn, Morel, Totem Accoustic, Bel Canto OK: NuVo, Pioneer, Liberty, OnQ, Elan Not looking Good: Control 4 Bad: Optoma (sellout company of 2004 and 2005), Sony (does'nt like to play), Bose (no explanation needed), Jamo DVR-50(Had to replace every sinle one.) Ugly: The Costco supported brands of Visio, Akai, Maxent, Protron (We refuse to touch these). And any major electronics manufacturor not otherwise mentioned above. Any van with large: DIRECT or DISH lettering on the side and usually the people driving them(, Monster Cable (look we sell amps!!) Yet to be Seen: Wild Blue
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| Post 77 made on Monday February 6, 2006 at 21:52 |
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Great: Denon, RBH, Pronto, Jamo, Earthquake, Carada, HSU, Xantech, Parasound,
F-Conn connectors
Good: Mitsubishi, Optoma (performance not service), JVC (projectors), Infocus
Poor: Samsung, Harmony, Direct TV STBs
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| Post 78 made on Monday February 6, 2006 at 21:52 |
benjh1028 Long Time Member |
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Great: Denon, RBH, Pronto, Jamo, Earthquake, Carada, HSU, Xantech, Parasound,
F-Conn connectors
Good: Mitsubishi, Optoma (performance not service), JVC (projectors), Infocus
Poor: Samsung, Harmony, Direct TV STBs
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| Post 79 made on Saturday March 4, 2006 at 13:00 |
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My few cents in the matter.
Great- Lutron HWI, AMX, B&K (whole house), Monitor Audio, Fujitsu, MX-850, Integra Research
Good- Integra, Vidikron, Meridian
Bad- MX-3000, Samsung.
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| Post 80 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 04:53 |
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On February 3, 2006 at 19:50, QQQ said...
Guys,
Expect to see this list in some official form
(not at RC) soon. Hey, 3xQ ... did you ever get around to posting this somewhere (IP?).
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| OP | Post 81 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 05:28 |
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Hey, 3xQ ... did you ever get around to posting this somewhere (IP?). Funny you bumped this as I was just thinking about it and then clicked here and lo and behold your post. I've investigated a few options but still haven't found anything I'm satisfied with. I thought I had as of that last post you quoted... Haven't forgotten about it but if I do it I want to present the data in a good usable online format.
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| Post 82 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 12:32 |
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If you need some assistance, or a website at which to host this, I'm happy to help. Have a pretty full schedule, but this is definitely a worthwhile effort so willing to commit to some time.
One simple way to start (though hard to scale, natch) might be an Excel spreadsheet? Perhaps host this at
Where does all the "data" live right now? Is it all in this thread? Any of it in your email inbox?
Another potential issue - liability. You know how _some_ manufacturers aren't above penalizing honest folk for their honest opinion ... so, perhaps adding some measure of anonymity to the reviews would be worthwhile - though that could well make the underlying data suspect, especially after time. Would also make it hard for folks to ask for further clarification from those posting their reviews.
So instead of anonymity, perhaps a better approach would be to post this in a protected/private forum ... e.g., @ IP.
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| Post 83 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 13:16 |
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On January 27, 2006 at 20:32, dr.k said...
Another good one would be rating for tech support. And good Reps!~ Guys that will actually hang with us smaller CI companies, and return calls, loan products etc. just like they do with some of the bigger guys... :)
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
Frank Lloyd Wright
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| Post 84 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 14:15 |
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Why not just set up a reviews section somewhere that people can enter their personal experiences with various pieces of equipment or systems? Something like this... [Link: boatertalk.com]Seems like this would be the easiest way to do this.
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| Post 85 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 15:09 |
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This is our way of sticking it to The Man.
I wonder if all the data can be summed up into secondary database, similar to a rating system that Ebay has for sellers and such.
Once the ball got rolling on this, I wonder if CEDIA would be interested in allocating the database.
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| Post 86 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 15:54 |
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On March 12, 2006 at 14:15, cma said...
Why not just set up a reviews section somewhere that people can enter their personal experiences with various pieces of equipment or systems? Something like this... [Link: boatertalk.com]Seems like this would be the easiest way to do this. Why not this? [Link: integrationpros.com]
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| OP | Post 87 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 17:12 |
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On March 12, 2006 at 15:54, augsys said...
Why not this? [Link: integrationpros.com]? name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=12 Because IMO there are already plenty of forums to just post about product and they are not particularly useful when it comes to presenting info in a structured way. If I do it I will do in an online searchable database format that will provide an objective as well as subjective criteria for each component. If someone searches on product ABC I want them to see a full rating based on an established set of criteria. i.e. Objective Discrete IR control for all commands "Yes" RS-232 "No" Rear IR Input "No" i.e. Subjective Lots of panel registration errors reported with this projector Tech support is diffult to reach
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| Post 88 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 17:58 |
Ernie Bornn-Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On February 4, 2006 at 23:29, 2nd rick said...
There you go TripQ, take this to the EIA, TIA,
CEA, FBI, etc. and attempt to make it a recognized
standard like Wesley did with his idea... Gee, o second one, why the vicious attitude? Perhaps you can go down in the halls of obscurity
like the rest of the people who write standards!! On February 5, 2006 at 15:35, Moe's original BBQ said...
That didn't happen to Frank Sinatra ;-) On February 6, 2006 at 00:00, Audible Solutionns said...
Because Sinatra never wrote any song he sang. One of his hits in the early to middle forties was "Nancy with the Laughing Face," which HE WROTE as a love poem to his wife, by whom he had daughter Nancy "Boots" "Something Silly" Sinatra. He divorced her some time later, but hey, we don't still use or carry all the same brands we useta, do we?
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| Post 89 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 19:50 |
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On March 12, 2006 at 17:58, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
One of his hits in the early to middle forties
was "Nancy with the Laughing Face," which HE WROTE
as a love poem to his wife, by whom he had daughter
Nancy "Boots" "Something Silly" Sinatra. He divorced
her some time later, but hey, we don't still use
or carry all the same brands we useta, do we? According to the CD in front of me, "Nancy with the smiling face" was wriiten by Phil Silvers and Jimmy Van Heusen.
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| Post 90 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 20:06 |
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On March 12, 2006 at 15:09, BigPapa said...
This is our way of sticking it to The Man. But... You are the man sir...
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