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| Topic: | Bad Products/Good Products List This thread has 90 replies. Displaying posts 61 through 75. |
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| Post 61 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 13:21 |
2nd rick Super Member |
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We should move this thing (especially the link to the list) to the verified section of IP... We can keep this to remotes, because that is the reason for this site, but the discussion of components should remain between pros so that all eyes seeing the info have similar perspectives.
Consumers are second guessing us often enough, and we don't need to give them any more info which could be taken out of context...
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| OP | Post 62 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 13:44 |
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Rick,
I'm still considering setting up a useful database for this and I've also had some other people express interest in same. I'll keep everyone updated. IF we do anything it will be sortable by manufacturer make and model.
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| Post 63 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 00:26 |
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Bad: Toshiba J35
Only high def STB/PVR that records in HD I know of, but the thing locks up a lot and has neither discretes or workarounds. Really sick of having to stick a little note in the macro status page telling the customer to hit a power toggle on the next page if there's no picture.
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| Post 64 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 02:19 |
Tom Ciaramitaro Loyal Member |
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On January 29, 2006 at 17:40, Springs said...
Totally Disagree with the Onkyo reccomendation.
We had to drop onkyo due to volitale memory in
the Receivers. After lighting storms we wouild
have to visit just about every one of the receivers
we put in. After a surge our outage they loose
the surround sound setup.. wich the customer might
not notice right away. Would they do notice is
how the Component Video is no longer synced to
the coresponding Digital Audio in. After of 6
to 7 returns per client. Doesn't matter that we
could walk them through how to set them correct
again. They wanted us to come out there and do
it for them. "Because we payed XXX dollars for
this." Only had that problem a couple of times ever. Just to be on the safe side, there is a default - like Component 1 input may tend to be defaulted to the DVD and Component 2 to Video 1 - I would connect them that way and not make an unnecessary switch that has to be set in the input setup. In case of any power glitches, the default will take care of you. I might do the same with the digital ins - use a coax if that's the default for the DVD, for instance. Just a little thing that could make a difference. I've sold Onkyo since '88 and Integra since they first hit the market and they have been good.
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There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions. |
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| Post 65 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 02:25 |
Tom Ciaramitaro Loyal Member |
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On January 29, 2006 at 20:13, DDeca said...
Excellent:
- Integra (except for their re-branded Imerge
piece) Can you elaborate on the problems you have had? I'm considering a B-stock piece for my own system but don't want to mess with it if it is a trouble spot.
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There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions. |
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| Post 66 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 10:32 |
cjoneill Select Member |
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QQQ- any chance you edit your top post and make it a summary of people's opinions?
CJ
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| Post 67 made on Thursday February 2, 2006 at 20:37 |
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On February 2, 2006 at 02:25, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
Can you elaborate on the problems you have had?
I'm considering a B-stock piece for my own system
but don't want to mess with it if it is a trouble
spot. That might be one of my units! I had ordered a couple of these when I first became a dealer. We had 2 of 3 of these go bad. One was DOA. Thea other went bad after I had loaded about 350 discs in 1 at a time!! Other than that they cannot be mass loaded (except for a VERY expensive PowerFile) poor user interface, poor IR codeset. All in all it is bested in every way by the Fireball. The one cool feature is the NET-TUNE to the small network receivers. Let me know if you get the server, I have a couple of the network receivers left. Other than that Integra is FANTASTIC in every catagory.
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| OP | Post 68 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 19:50 |
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Guys,
Expect to see this list in some official form (not at RC) soon.
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| Post 69 made on Friday February 3, 2006 at 20:10 |
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On February 3, 2006 at 19:50, QQQ said...
Guys,
Expect to see this list in some official form
(not at RC) soon. Great thread (again). It's nice to see some unity and cohesiveness in our industry. I've seen behaviour over the years amongst ourselves, trashtalk and petty competitiveness, that somewhat baffles me. We're all better off helping each other out and promoting our industry by standards bearing and political lobbying.... does CEDIA have a bigwig lobbyist in the 87 miles surrounded by reality?
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| Post 70 made on Saturday February 4, 2006 at 00:46 |
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On February 3, 2006 at 19:50, QQQ said...
Guys,
Expect to see this list in some official form
(not at RC) soon. You gonna put this up at Wesley's site, so it looks like you are doing something for industry like him. lol Great idea!!
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| Post 71 made on Saturday February 4, 2006 at 13:55 |
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And they said it couldn't be done! Check out the ISF Display Chart being constructed by the members of the ISF Forum. As a means of promoting the manufacture of calibration-friendly displays, we are developing a publicly accessible database of desired features, coupled with a private back-end that has more detailed information that is in the process of being "peer-reviewed" or that is best left in the hands of verified professionals.
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| Post 72 made on Saturday February 4, 2006 at 23:29 |
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On February 4, 2006 at 00:46, roddymcg said...
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looks like you are doing something for industry
like (Wesley). There you go TripQ, take this to the EIA, TIA, CEA, FBI, etc. and attempt to make it a recognized standard like Wesley did with his idea... Perhaps you can go down in the halls of obscurity like the rest of the people who write standards!!
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| Post 73 made on Sunday February 5, 2006 at 15:35 |
Moe's original BBQ Active Member |
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On February 4, 2006 at 23:29, 2nd rick said...
Perhaps you can go down in the halls of obscurity
like the rest of the people who write standards!! That didn't happen to Frank Sinatra ;-)
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| Post 74 made on Sunday February 5, 2006 at 23:52 |
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On February 5, 2006 at 15:35, Moe's original BBQ said...
That didn't happen to Frank Sinatra ;-) Now that's funny!
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| Post 75 made on Monday February 6, 2006 at 00:00 |
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On February 5, 2006 at 15:35, Moe's original BBQ said...
That didn't happen to Frank Sinatra ;-) Because Sinatra never wrote any song he sang. He was a singer, an interpretor of lyrics but anyone who ever heard Sinatra speak might have a clue that writing songs was not his forte. But it was a good line. Alan
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