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| Topic: | Bad Products/Good Products List This thread has 90 replies. Displaying posts 46 through 60. |
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| Post 46 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 12:21 |
augsys Long Time Member |
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Great thread. This is what I was hoping for when I started the review section at IP.com [Link: integrationpros.com]For my good list. Crestron, hands down, best product, best service. RTI, RF almost as good as true blue and easy to program. B&K, there dealer program is really tailored to what CI guys need. There products are too. Runco, after being a Sim2 guy for years we recently dropped them for Runco and found they have two things Sim2 is missing. Service and support. The bad list. Almost all main stream TV brands, its faster to mention the exceptions (Sony, JVC, LG) than the offenders Universal Remote Control, when I called in with a RF problem on my first MX800, they said they’d never heard of any problems, when I told them I did a search here and found 50 other guys with similar problems, the tech accused me of lying. I’m done with these guys, this product is crap.
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| Post 47 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 13:28 |
2nd rick Super Member |
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On January 29, 2006 at 09:02, djnorm said...
Rick - don't know which JVC S-VHS VCR's you've
been installing, but every one I've ever sold
(and owned) had rear AV inputs and worked well
with discrete everything. We've sold hundreds
of these over the years, and have maybe had two
or three service issues of any kind. I would
have put them in the Excellent column if it weren't
for the fact that nobody wants a VCR anymore... It was a current model, the HR-S5902U... MSRP $229. Even the $559 HR-S5911U only lists one S-Video input, and it's on the front panel...
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| Post 48 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 17:17 |
ian_av Long Time Member |
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On January 29, 2006 at 13:28, 2nd rick said...
It was a current model, the HR-S5902U... MSRP
$229.
Even the $559 HR-S5911U only lists one S-Video
input, and it's on the front panel... we use these vcrs too, i cant remeber ever running into no rear inputs, and these are the specs on the jvc site.... for the 5902u Front and rear S-Video Inputs S-Video Output on Back Panel Rear AV Inputs, Gold Plated Front Inputs
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| Post 49 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 17:40 |
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Totally Disagree with the Onkyo reccomendation. We had to drop onkyo due to volitale memory in the Receivers. After lighting storms we wouild have to visit just about every one of the receivers we put in. After a surge our outage they loose the surround sound setup.. wich the customer might not notice right away. Would they do notice is how the Component Video is no longer synced to the coresponding Digital Audio in. After of 6 to 7 returns per client. Doesn't matter that we could walk them through how to set them correct again. They wanted us to come out there and do it for them. "Because we payed XXX dollars for this."
Kicked Onkyo and now we have time to actually make money on new installs. Also cutomers are more likly to remember that we took care of them and it worked. The Onkyo Owners were really annoyed when we asked to swap out the receivers. We ended up giving them other brands at cost just to stop the bleeding. Lost money all around, but it costs less than sending techs over there after every rain.
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| Post 50 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 18:12 |
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On January 28, 2006 at 23:27, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
Right. A client's assistant who has seen a TSU7000
was just shaking his head at how much better an
RTI T2+ was (this in combo with an RP-6). Seriously? What part did they like better? I just replaced a T2 with a TSU7500 and RFX6500. The customer actually called to thank my boss. Usually no news is good news. I am just starting work with the RTI line. Getting used to the Software is going to take me a while as I am used to being able to just drop in a code without all the extra steps. The T2+ has a noticeable advantage over say the MX850 in RF but in IR the MX is way faster. My plan was to skip the T2+ and start on the T3 and T4. But ofcourse sales gets to make choices untill I am mind set.
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| Post 51 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 20:13 |
DDeca Long Time Member |
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Excellent:
- Integra (except for their re-branded Imerge piece)
- Vidikron
- Definitive Tech
- AudioQuest ITC connectors and cables rock!!! Saves so much time.
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| Post 52 made on Sunday January 29, 2006 at 21:41 |
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Good: three letter distributor part of honeywell (as big as they are still work their butt off, understands customer service)
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| Post 53 made on Monday January 30, 2006 at 05:13 |
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Ditto the bad on Sharp - especially their customer service, absolute carp!
Russound and Parasound make the top of my list in terms of product quality/features, bang4buck and customer support.
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| Post 54 made on Monday January 30, 2006 at 14:30 |
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I'd be happy to throw a quick database/ASP page together to track the good, bad, and ugly and host it... I think I'll actually work on that tonight. :) Some other feedback as to how you'd like it organized/displayed/queried would be helpful.
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Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense. -----Arnold Bennett |
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| Post 55 made on Monday January 30, 2006 at 18:41 |
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Excelent: Monitor Audio, Integra, Vidikron, Sherbourn
Good: Elan, LG, RBH Sound
Seems to be going the wrong way: Dwin,
Sucks big time: Samsung(do we offer discretes this week?) Dish & DirecTV
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| Post 56 made on Monday January 30, 2006 at 20:21 |
Carl Spackler Senior Member |
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I agree with the rest on RTI being excellent. Also Fujitsu, Denon, And Nevo also, I love mine.
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| Post 57 made on Tuesday January 31, 2006 at 10:35 |
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On January 29, 2006 at 21:41, noot98 said...
Good: three letter distributor part of honeywell
(as big as they are still work their butt off,
understands customer service) I definately agree. I also was told by a distributor that HP is adding IR in jacks to their plasmas as well as removable side speakers, also a plus.
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| Post 58 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 02:08 |
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On January 29, 2006 at 12:21, augsys said...
Great thread.
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| The bad list.
Almost all main stream TV brands, its faster to
mention the exceptions (Sony, JVC, LG) than the
offenders
Universal Remote Control, when I called in with
a RF problem on my first MX800, they said they’d
never heard of any problems, when I told them
I did a search here and found 50 other guys with
similar problems, the tech accused me of lying.
I’m done with these guys, this product is crap.
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
Frank Lloyd Wright
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| Post 59 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 02:30 |
Mr. Stanley Elite Member |
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On January 27, 2006 at 20:29, QQQ said...
I agree. Good: Genelec, Marantz, Stewart, Fortress, Niles, Harmony, Energy, Epson, Totem, Vantage & AMX Bad: Infocus, NAD, Draper, Yamaha (too damn many effects and layers of control for the average user), Omni mount, Harmon Kardon (horrible supplied remotes), AV*D... Getting too big, too spread out, impossible to get through on the phone, signing on too many slammers, BOSE, Monster Cable (need I explain)? :)
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
Frank Lloyd Wright
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| Post 60 made on Wednesday February 1, 2006 at 11:22 |
RC Geek Advanced Member |
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Well guys, I've got the rudimentary database put together - now I just need to do the coding for hosting it online... Oh to have a licensed copy of Cold Fusion - it'd be done already as I know that system very well. Oh well - this'll be a good way for me to learn to migrate to ASP - even on a rudimentary level. :) Input is most definitely welcome on what you guys would like to see or, if you're serious about wanting a data-driven site for ratings of manufacturers.
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Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense. -----Arnold Bennett |
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