I live on the bay in Southern NJ. Our waters are part of the Atlantic Ocean. The tides come and go approximately every 12 hours (6up and 6 down) Depending on area of the country the water level can vary from only a few inches to 8 or 10 feet. In my area its about 4 to 8 feet depending on the lunar cycle. This can quickly wear out and break the cables.

If I'm understanding correctly, you'll have 40 pieces of coax in a 6' conduit? Cut a big pvc trough in the line and pull many at once. How are they getting the 1" into the 6"? Use lots of love lube, I mean pulling lubricant.

I think once he gets into that enclosure its up to the cable provider. He's off the hook as each line is probably owned by the slip owner. The utility provider is responsible for proper signal at that point. He's not designing a 240 jack system. ( Ihope not anyway) This will depend on the ownership structure of the slips.

Is that how it was explained to you ceied? How about phone? Another sub?

It sounds like Ed is going from tap to panel. When service is connected, panel to boat will be the providers problem.

it will all be good have faith .....i'll see if i can figure out a way to post a simple drawing......

in a nut shell longest run will be less than 300 feet from our headend. we are doing wiring under dock to each slip back to our headend....at our head end we will be having 24 dish taps, 24 direct tv taps and comcast ...thats their problem..basically plug in play...if slip want dish they connect to dish tap, if they want direct tv the connect to dierct tv tap, cable thats comcast problem the tap to comcast feed via their rj11 or whatever they choose....cable tv is not my problem..

we will not be offereing local antenna feeds to much bull shit keep it simple...these peaople can afford the 5 bucks to bring in locals from the bird. all lines will be owned by the marina.

there will be no phone lines to the docks...complete waiste of money for marina or phone company. with everyone having cell phones no need or want for that.

basically we will have 7 headends with 7 dish network dishes, 7 direct tv dish and 7 comcast taps......


there will be a 8 inch pipe that runs the lenght of the dock, every6 or 8 slips will be a huge pvc box that the 1 inch pipe gets tapped to then to each dock stand basically bigass pull boxes under the dock.

agian i'm not including every detail but just the basics so you get the jist of it.

its kinda like a 40 drop patch panel.......

lubricating jelly ..gallons of that crap


ed

Ed, 300' run = RG-11. I don't know how other cable plants are, but around here anything over 200' gets RG-11.
Wish this one was my job you lucky bast**d :)

Aint getting any easier than that. (Not to belittle anything) All I would say is start with the longest and work back. Get buckets of lube and pull all at once for each pull box (6 or 8). Good luck. It'll be fun with ALOT of future leads. Ever see AV wiring in most boats/RVs. Laughable.

ok i thought the same about rg11, but i talked to manufacturer (salesman in disgise)of coax they said we were good, dish said we were good .direct tv never got thru

i found these specs online for what i think is my cable...but this one doesnt look like 3 gig swept..hmmm

yeah i have a boat and they are wired like ass......

maybe i need a second and 3rd opinion on the rg11 cable that would suck we dont have the room in the pipe for that

for sure longest first otherwise no freaking way.

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What the h*ll is all that about :)

Good lord, 90,000 feet.. I typically charge $135.00 per 100ft run to run Coax or Cat5e in business applications.. That would be a nice little paycheck from this job.. I need to find a marina here in Sugar Land..

Not only appropriate, but probably needed for all of the loss you will experience. Might want to look at something armored as well. Its going to take a lot of abuse. Using RG-11 is going to save you a lot of frustration in the end, getting the system balanced with good signal to ALL drops.

all we are doing is wiring....comcast responsibility to make sure it works.......:-) at least for cable signal......

our cable connection to sats will be fine since we are under 600 ft...

i have a call into gepco , commscope and dish again just to verify what was said about cable...dont want to eat all that rg11 if it needs to go in......

Might need to look at some good quality gel filled F connectors, or you will be forever replacing them. The cable company may be able to help you design this system, and help you spec out the equipment needed as well.
Another resource may be the National Cable Television Institute.

Thats like a sparky saying "All we are doing is the wiring, its the CI guys respoinsability to make sure it works", when they wire a Plasma w a single RG-6, or in-walls with 22AWG zip cord

Are you saying they told you up to 600 ft is ok w RG-6?

We typically get up to about 200 feet with standard RG-6, and then start looking ot RG11. Will it WORK on longer runs? Yes, and we have stretched it at times. The new DP and DP+ from Dish Netowrk help stretch those lengths as well, but I certainly would not try 600 feet, nor have I ever. Even with your earlier post of 300ft references, I would probably be considering RG11. We've typically unsed in-line amps when doing runs that long when RG11 wasnt used.

ok update...

dish..200 feet then powered inline amp for total of 400 feet if we go farther they said 2 inline amps
direct tv 200 feet then inline amp same as dish
cable....only 8 slips get effected by this but it will require16 db amp for those last 8 slips other wise we will be under 8 db loss wich will be no issue. over 2/3 of the slips wi be under 200 feet .....

general said no to rg11 and additional cost. also said no to bigger pipe since dock company are raping them already....make it work is what he said...

owner of gepco told me we are well withing the specs of cable headends provided by comcast. although we are pushing it.

each cable over 200 feet will need to be tagged with db loss end to end so cable company can get it right on their end.

What on earth is the point of running 1 coax to all the boats?

No Cat5?

What is the purpose?