ok here is the deal...i'm doing marina with 250 coax drops with head end out to each slip. total cable is 83000 feet of rg6 quad coax. how much should i make per foot and how much labor per drop? how much for labor per hour?

current rate for our ci stuff is $75 per man per hour
i figure $55 per hours for this project per man...is that to much or to little?

i figure .04 cents a foot for my markup on the coax.....to much to little?

thanks for the input

bam

Your labor rate is your labor rate. Why would you discount it, let alone for of all things a job that is virtually entirely labor? My 2 cents.

You mention per drop and per hour. Which are you charging by?

we charge by the hour...but 250 drops so you get a scale of project......

problem our rate is higher than sparky....

If your hurting for work, then split the difference between sparky and your normal hourly. Otherwise, leave it for sparky. Some gigs just aren't $worth$ the hassle.

Well, why take the job for less money? I don't think you have $20 per hour of profit you can trim off and be left with much. Why work your tail off for minimal profit? Just go home early for a few days and be with your family.

If sparky can design it and implement it for less, then have at it. If he doesn't have a clue on how to properly terminate, plus plan out all the amps, splits, and so on, you should be selling yourself as the right guy at the right price and you get what (or less) than you pay for.

First - dont discount on a marina. They are typically an assache deluxe. Will it be a common feed? Typically no. Is it a condo group of slips or what? Be prepared for a little more engineering than just a few amps. I'm sure you'll need more than just a few feeds from the utility provider plus a little tilt correction. I would consider cable too. I would probably look for copper braiding and center core. Will your cable be able to handle CONSTANT tidal swings without short term failure? All of these should be discussed with project supervisor. don't give to much info though. If they go with the other guy - let it be a disaster.

If you feel you have to give something away to be competitive, let them pay cost on the wire. Charge them your full labour rate and full price for all other needed equipment. Making .04c per foot on the coax, and discounting labour, isn't worth even handling it. Not that I would likely get a job like this, but that 83000ft of coax would be my first 25 - 30k in profit.

RG-6 quad? better use direct burial rated to handle the moisture.. I would also stick with your standard rate, maybe more because it sounds like it would be a pain in the ass.

I've done cable at marina's before. How is it set up? The one's that I have done have a ped and tap every 50' or so. How are you getting from the ped to the dock? Is the conduit already in? Are you direct burying it? Definately use quad 6. Maybe I am miss understanding what will be involved in the job.
Bobby...

ok here's the scoop they will pay $75 per man hour. they will pay .16 cent a foot for rg6 quad. at 90000 feet i will be making 8 cents a foot, cost will be 8 cents a foot so i'm doubling. i am also making 50 points on all equipment needed.

all docks are piped with 6" pvc end to end for us with 1 inch to each pedastal. may have them make it 8 inch for first half then 6 inch for second.

there are 7 docks with about 40 slips. at the end of each dock will be a big panel. all coax will be homerun from slip to box. at that point it will be plug and play.

in box will be 24 dish network taps 24 direct tv taps and whatever comcast needs to do for cable. each slip will be jumpered to appropriate service. basic structured wire panel just bigger.

we will be using comscope rg6 quad swept to 3 ghz so cable is good. will be using snap and seal purples

spaun will make us our direct tv multi switches and dish has theirs.

hardest part will be getting longest runs done...but we will do those first
second hardest will be getting the 5 foot tall fiberglass boxes mounted to the docks.

what do you think about serial digital coax 59? just a thought.......

so am i making enough money on this? i dont want to be greedy cuz they are building 300 homes on same site and we are being considered for that work as well...what should i do?

******for the record lake michigan has no tidal swing maybe like 1 inch.
cost on 90000 feet of coax is $8600 so how do you make 25k in profit on that? you would have to charge almost 35 cent a foot for coax.
all for now

ed

I was wondering what the he** a tidal swing was. Thanks for clarifying it for me Ed. The marina work I have done was also on a lake. Never done one as big as this one though. Lake Michigan huh? Is this a winter job? I hate conduit pulls in the winter.
Water = Ice.... I 've spent many hours pouring boiling water into frozen conduit...
Sounds like a sweet gig Ed...

Sounds good.

Doesn't sound good. Unless you want to get sued. Not apporpriate for this application.

Do you mind showing us a little of the engineering done for this?

How long are the docks? A frequency table with loss at each slip would be good.

How far is the run to the Dish locations? Do you know how many coax runs are needed, and power requirements. How about a local antenna? You are in a great area for free tv, lots of HDTV stations around.

You should own or purchase one of these with the deposit, if you already don't own one : [Link: sadelco.com] Also a Channel master, pico or Spaun Satellite meter.

Remeber your reputation and ass are on the line with a lot of people with Large boats (meaning they have lots of money to make your life miserable.) If you are not that familiar with RF and Cable, get to the nearest CEDIA or NSCA class . After the class ask the instructor if you can pay him for help in a design. 2 for 1 the way I see it.

Ya, actually RG-11 might even be appropriate depending on the runs.