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Topic: | POLL: Most reliable, best support control systems This thread has 28 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 29. |
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Post 16 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 17:56 |
twix Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2002 109 |
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Hey Deadken what do you consider high end?
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Post 17 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 18:44 |
On 08/29/02 17:56.41, twix said...
Hey Deadken what do you consider high end? I meant Mid + I would lean towards AMX. I would define a Mid size system as 2 or 3 control boxes. High End for us is the roof! I've worked on systems with 10+ Netlinx talking. It would hurt my head even thinking of how I would do that on Crestron.
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Post 18 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 18:47 |
twix Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2002 109 |
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Good point, just love those customers that say:
I'll take it!
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Post 19 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 18:50 |
twix Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2002 109 |
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For what is worth, Vantage now has eliminated the triak in thier new dimming panels,take that light touch and lutron!
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OP | Post 20 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 19:02 |
John Pechulis Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 7,127 |
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On 08/29/02 11:16.53, jcmitch said...
You can use IntelliControl w/ those Marantz toggle bit codes, but it does take an unreasonable amount of effort. You need to use another remote to merge the skip commands with a harmeless command and learn the pair as if it were one on the IntelliControl. The second command resets the Marantz too looking for the "A" in an "A/B" or toggle bit pair. There's a bit of info on this subject in some of the other forums here. Do a search on bi-phase or RC-5 troubleshooting.
The real troubling thing we've been experiencing w/ IntelliControl lately is a propensity to "lock up". The remedy for the older systems was to pad the antenna input down to the point where spurious rf was a non issue. Thats not so easy with the new units. Anyone else having this problem?
jcmitch I am/was using the codes from the library, I did not learn them. Still had the same issues. So rather than go through some "voodoo magic" to get codes that work properly, we just changed the control system to something we know works. Just an FYI, when we were thinking about picking up the Niles remote, we asked tech support if there would any issues with the equipment we sell, of course we got a "No issues, should work fine" answer. The answer seemed to progress towards the "Nope won't control that piece because (fill in the blank)______________", after we picked up the line. Surprise, surprise. JJP
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Post 21 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 21:27 |
Matt Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 1,802 |
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I like the sound of Parasound, but honestly, their amps get WAY too hot and their gear is hard to control...
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OP | Post 22 made on Thursday August 29, 2002 at 23:21 |
John Pechulis Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 7,127 |
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On 08/29/02 21:27.03, Matt said...
I like the sound of Parasound, but honestly, their amps get WAY too hot Agreed, they sound great, that's why we sell them. Though I've never had a problem with heat issues with Parasound amps, except for the Zamp. Every Parasound amp I've ever installed, was rack-mounted and just warm to the touch in operation. and their gear is hard to control... Never had an issue with control with the various control systems we sell, other than Niles. JJP
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Post 23 made on Friday August 30, 2002 at 02:45 |
Chomperio Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2002 3 |
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If you use Niles or AMX, be prepared to have to reset them regularly. A dedicated switched outlet or reset switch is handy to allow them to reboot. It's either that or a frustrating phone call or quick service call to get them running again. Try explaing which wire is the power cord to a MSU mounted upside down behind a rack. A little red button is much easier for those intimidated by cabling. I could make a career only servicing AMX, Intellicontrols, and Replays. Isn't anything dependable anymore? At least my Marantz RC5200 is reliable.
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Post 24 made on Friday August 30, 2002 at 14:23 |
I use Crestron no matter what. It's totally scaleable and with the new Pronto sized wireless touchpad, we'll all be kissing Prontos good bye. I've done everything from a small home theater, performing arts theater, to a boardroom, to a netowrk operations center with Crestron with very few problems. Even if you have a lox end client, with a little product knowledge, you can creatively keep the cost low, and you won't compromise usability or upgradability.
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Post 25 made on Friday August 30, 2002 at 20:38 |
Matt Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 1,802 |
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I just did the indoor theater at the MN Zoo...with Crestron. It was a challenge with a one-way wireless remote, but it turned out awesome!
Try doing password protection on a One-way!
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Post 26 made on Sunday September 8, 2002 at 00:58 |
craig day Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2002 101 |
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George P -
Would like to know how your Pronto pro/intellicontrol hybrid works out. How are you getting the button/frequency info to be able to send commands to the Intellicontrol MSU?
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Post 27 made on Friday October 18, 2002 at 01:47 |
john dolby Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2002 3 |
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Hay JJP what remote did you switch to for the parasound avc2500? You said it didn't like toggle bits. Any advise for me getting this up in running.
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Post 28 made on Friday October 18, 2002 at 07:17 |
DBDElectronics Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 46 |
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The pronto integrates fine with the AVC2500, I don't know what you mean about toggle bits but there are discreet codes for all functions
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Post 29 made on Saturday October 19, 2002 at 22:47 |
iaddanny Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | October 2002 4 |
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My opinion Crestron, But you cant go wrong with any of the big control manufactures. The key to a control system is Time + Money + Patience = Experience What i mean is if enough is invested into that control system you can get what you want and need out of it. With all the control systems presently available in the industry it would be impossiable to learn them all and accuratly tell you who is better. The big factor is experience and knowledge without that they are all a nightmare. My company specializes in just crestron programming, design and installation for low voltage companies. This allows smaller companies to compete with larger companies who can afford to staff a full time experienced programmer and trained technicians to install the complex systems and sub-systems. We work all over the country and would be glad to assit you should you need it. If you are interested you can call me Dan 772-633-2433 or e-mail me [email protected] .
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