I still don't understand why walking around unvaccinated is putting anyone in more danger??? It's been proven that vaccinated people can get the virus and spread the virus. Do we even know what the rate differences between vaccinated transmission vs. unvaccinated transmission is? Am I putting someone in more or less risk because I have not got the vaccination but have had COVID?

I do laugh at the abortion comment. Lib's are willing to chain themselves to a tree to save it yet killing a living unborn child is completely fine. Makes no sense. The less you make people accountable for their actions, the worse our society will get. That goes for personal health as well. I'm all for socialized medicine if it didn't punish those who try to maintain their health. Eat chips and soda every day and I would love to pay for your insulin and blood thinners...times 50% of the population. Sounds like a deal!

They believe in following the "science", except when it doesn't fit their narrative.
An child that is days and weeks from being born is a "clump of cells"
A biological man should be able to go into the ladies room with your daughters because he "feels like a woman today"
People who are not sick, don't have covid and are unvaccinated are "lepers".

The level of science-ing is amazing!

X-10 pulled out of CEDIA

That's the deciding factor for me. No Cedia this year.

Just following up on my post earlier. My mother was in ICU for the last three weeks because of COVID, even though she was vaccinated in January. It caused secondary issues including pneumonia and fluid buildup around her heart. She was the only one in the hospital with COVID issues that was vaccinated. Based on this I have zero faith in some of the numbers people are tossing around about how just as many non-vaccinated people are impacted.

I saw a healthy 19-yr old and a 38-yr old triathlete lose their battles after 5 days. Unfortunately my mother lost her battle yesterday.

The fact this has become a political issue as opposed to a public health issue based on science is beyond comprehension. Yes, I am sensitive to this given what my family is going through, but if you are that adamant about not getting the vaccination for any reason I have no sympathy for whatever might happen. And normally I wouldn’t care except for the fact that it can impact others.

And lastly screaming that your rights are being violated if municipalities pass ordinances requiring proof of vaccination to go to a bar or restaurant - like NYC is requiring - will fall on deaf ears with me. They too have the constitutional right to say who can walk through their doors.

Well this might be the final nail in the coffin.

Ironically I went to an event this evening put on by the local health provider, and my wife's employer. They just lost an employee/anti vaxer this morning that shook up the team. I also got to speak with the local epidemiologist and the CEO of the health organization. I told them how well informed my internet and Facebook friends were after 19 minutes of their studying. We all chuckled... They were passing around deworming pills and margaritas. Well maybe just margaritas

Sorry for your loss, I truly am.  No matter how I say this, it will not come off politely.

Your mother was vaccinated, and still got COVID, which she ended up passing away from.

Vaccinated people can still get the virus AND they can still transmit the virus, no different from unvaccinated people.

The thought is that even though they can get it, they are less likely to die or have a bad response from it.

This vaccine does not kill the virus, it simply makes it so the host does not feel the symptoms as much.

Because of this approach, this virus is allowed to live, to adapt, to change, to mutate......which they are now saying will be (current) vaccine resistant within one to two years.

But don't fear world, they are already working on a vaccine variant to combat the virus variant they couldn't fix the first time.

How many trillions is this one going to cost us now??

To top it off, your last sentence is quite disturbing.

"PERFECTLY HEALTHY people are not allowed to eat out, travel, go to a gym, a movie, a store, etc, etc, etc....."

According to you and those that think like you, the only ones that are allowed to leave their home are the ones willing to submit to an experimental vaccine for a virus that has a survival rate of 98%.  Event though, in certain cases this vaccine doesn't do sh!t, as you're now aware.

And it's quite possible, the vaccine is making this virus stronger!

Nope. COVID-19 vaccines help our bodies develop immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19 without us having to get the illness.

You are excerpting on media reports on very rare instances of breakthrough cases and surmising that this is the norm.

The true norm, is that anti-vax people will cling onto any theory that will fit their narrative, re-enforcing their beliefs and shouting on forums that they have the answers and everyone else are sheeple.

In reality, it's the unvaccinated people that are the cause of the ongoing mess everyone is in, the spread of the virus and cause of the variants.

It's like saying that seatbelts aren't always going to keep you alive in the event of an auto accident, so I won't wear one and you're infringing on my freedoms if you try and make me wear one. Guess what...

I am truly sorry to hear this. You may just want to stay away from this forum for awhile. It won't be long before some people on here continue to spew their stupidity and include your mom as their "proof" of something or another.

Hello! I guess you haven't heard: The idiots on here will never listen to anything you say. They will just dig in deeper and deeper while clinging to the Tucker/Laura/Sean talking point of the day.

The anti-vax, anti-science people are reliving or extending their teen rebellion years.

Here is a reasonably current list of cancellations. There are a lot of big names in this growing list.

Time will tell right fellas....that's only as long as the actual truth is able to get to the people.

The current score is 190 million that recovered naturally from this virus vs 4.5 million (mostly high risk) that passed away from it.

However if you are of the mindset that perfectly healthy people should be forced to take an experimental vaccination, that actually has many stories of terrible side effects, for a virus that is 98% survivable, you are the problem.

If you think it's okay to ban perfectly healthy people in the United States from society, and ask everyone for their "papers" before they enter any building, you are the problem.

If you site here and watch so many of the people who make these laws for us, immediately break their own laws because they thought they wouldn't get caught, you are the problem.

You might want to start paying attention a little more and questions what you are told.

Good luck!

It is unbelievable how many people lack critical thinking skills. The commies have been successful in taking over the US education system the last few decades, and really dumbing down the population.

Some guys on here spend more time researching which work van to buy than finding out about a experimental medical procedure they willingly participate in.

“(The) group pointed to data compiled for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in its Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) that includes 3,079 individuals who died after receiving the second Pfizer shot.

Overall, there have been nearly 600,000 “adverse events” reported to VAERS concerning individuals who have received the Pfizer vaccine or its two main rivals from Moderna and Johnson & Johnson. Deaths total 13,068 after receiving one of the three vaccines.

Other adverse reactions reported to VAERS following receiving one of the three vaccines include 5,617 cases of Anaphylaxis, 5,882 heart attacks, 17,228 permanently disabled individuals, and 25,169 severe allergic reactions.“

NOT talking points from talking heads, this is data from the government’s CDC (Center for Disease Control).