“(The) group pointed to data compiled for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in its Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) that includes 3,079 individuals who died after receiving the second Pfizer shot.
Overall, there have been nearly 600,000 “adverse events” reported to VAERS concerning individuals who have received the Pfizer vaccine or its two main rivals from Moderna and Johnson & Johnson. Deaths total 13,068 after receiving one of the three vaccines.
Other adverse reactions reported to VAERS following receiving one of the three vaccines include 5,617 cases of Anaphylaxis, 5,882 heart attacks, 17,228 permanently disabled individuals, and 25,169 severe allergic reactions.“
NOT talking points from talking heads, this is data from the government’s CDC (Center for Disease Control).
"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events.
The numbers are way more, possibly by a magnitude of 10.
It appears to me that VAERS is an unofficial website attempting to "prove" that the COVID-19 vaccines are dangerous. Types that feel that they are too strong to become infected will use this discussion as justification to avoid any behavior suggested to control the virus among weaklings.
If you accept VAERS figures that there have been 6018 vaccine associated deaths in the US vs 630,816 COVID-19 deaths, it seems that one is a little safer by being vaccinated.
Edit: While I think that the anti crowd would be more comfortable with something published by Fox or one of the other anti networks, this CNN discussion might be helpful.
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Post 138 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 13:48
Who is "they" I don't doubt this mothers story. Nothing is perfect, medicine is not perfect. Bottom line is way more people are dying from the virus than are dying from the vaccines.
There has to be a YouTube channel that has these that is not interspersed with flat earth vids right? Seems like a credibility issue.
And VAERS? the wikipedia of the vaccine/drug world. I could post a report the said that the vaccine gave me a third arm growing out of my forehead and it would be recorded. And in 2021 would the anti vax crowd post a bunch of fake reports? naw...couldn't happen right?
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Post 141 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 15:49
Who is "they" I don't doubt this mothers story. Nothing is perfect, medicine is not perfect. Bottom line is way more people are dying from the virus than are dying from the vaccines.
No the actual bottom line is that people like you and others here are acting like every single person who gets covid will die when in fact the complete opposite is what is actually true, almost every person recovers just fine.
Long terms effects from the virus are still unknown, but long term effects from the vaccination are also unknown. Yet there are more and more stories like this making their way through the web of lies the left likes to spin. Every day there are more and more stories of the so called "breakthrough cases" where vaccinated people still get the virus. At what number will they stop calling it "breakthrough"?
People have the right to not go out if they're scared. Business have the right to close their doors if they're worried. Forcing private business to shut down and calling for a ban on healthy people (or high risk) from anything public just because they choose not to get a vaccine for something they are not worried about, is insanity.......or maybe just a brain malfunction......or maybe just brainwashing.
If your shot works, why do I need it? If your shot doesn't work, why do I need it?
Post 142 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 16:39
People like me??? When the hell did I ever act like every single person who gets COVID will die?
I agree with all of your rights. I agree with private business rights to require vaccinations.
I never questioned or challenged any of that...
I did question your Youtube channel choice. Flat Earthers? Really?
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Post 143 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 17:41
On August 25, 2021 at 15:49, internetraver said...
If your shot works, why do I need it? If your shot doesn't work, why do I need it?
I don't think that my shot is working because spoons don't stick to my forehead.
"Mr Magnet" must have been an early vaccine victim. Here's another account of sticking spoon. Be sure to check the copyright date at the bottom of the page.
Post 145 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 19:34
I did question your Youtube channel choice. Flat Earthers? Really?
The video is in many places on the internet. Since my choice of link is not favorable to some here, feel free to try this one which has even more factual information.
Post 147 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 20:01
So, the back story is usually hidden, so you might want to read up.
The vaccine that just got approved is now at 39% efficacy. Which is why we went from “get a vaccine and we are good” to “get another one at 6 months” because it loses it’s effectiveness. We will have to wait and see six months after that… Do you want to keep getting shots every six months?
The one that is approved has not had testing for children and pregnant women completed yet. Side effects are of course widespread, but you either say, “Let me see how this plays out in testing”, or “Get a shot and worry about that later”.
Those trials will complete in 2022 and 2023. But you MARK my WORDS. Those approvals for your children will come very soon, because it is politically based and not science based. And children will die of the flu or a lightning strike in greater numbers than they will of COVID. And they are not carriers either. In their case, the shot carries a higher risk than the disease. That is the science.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 148 made on Wednesday August 25, 2021 at 21:31
Or it is at 88% [Link: nejm.org] Who knows.... I am happy with my vaccine decision, my family is too... I hope you all are happy with yours. and MARK my WORDS....There is no truth anymore. Only assertions
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Post 149 made on Thursday August 26, 2021 at 01:08
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