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Do You Need A Custom Control4 Driver?
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OP | Post 31 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 09:21
crosen
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On April 10, 2020 at 10:50, Rob Grabon said...
Yes please.

Notes
Doesn't do anything.
You drop it in like any other device in the tree, ability to change it's name in the tree, and a couple fields in properties (who, when, why) window to type notes in. Never shows up in navigator, or anywhere else.

Idea being, you can add it to design under an item, and it allows you to add notes about that other item. Say the light switch is in a stupid place, or you add a fake driver to breakout audio from a source, or just a place to leave a note behind on why something exists or how you set it up.

Sure there's way's to do Rem in programming windows, but looking for the ability to leave myself and the next guy a note on why this or that exists in design, or where something is located in the house. (Mostly for light switch physical locations.)

OK, I did a super basic version of this:

[Link: dropbox.com]

(To locate driver in Composer, search for "notes" or filter Manufacturer = "Whole Home Control")

AFAIK, you can't expand the text field of the properties beyond a single line, so I included separate properties for lines 1 through 5.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
OP | Post 32 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 09:30
crosen
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On April 13, 2020 at 09:02, Dawn Gordon Luks said...
That's awesome!

Basically, 3rd party IR control uses Pronto Hex codes built-into the Composer Software to control just about anything.

See page 363: [Link: control4.com]

Thanks, I checked out the user guide, and see where it states that third party remotes are supported. But, I'm not clear how this support works. What would I do in Composer, for example, to access this functionality?
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 33 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 09:31
andrewinboulder
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On April 13, 2020 at 09:10, Dawn Gordon Luks said...
As mentioned above, URC has a waterproof remote. But this isn't the only use for 3rd party remotes. The options given by Control4 have been pretty sparse. You have the SR260 and the Neeo. You all know how I feel about the Neeo.

So, if you want more control, more buttons and more options in a standard remote form-factor, then a 3rd party remote is the way to go. Unfortunately, Control4 changed the IR sensor on their controllers after the HC200-HC500 series and this was no longer possible. The good news is that Control4 left the IR code in Composer, so we can take advantage of it.

I used a company called Sealoc to "waterproof" an SR-260. It's been used with a TV at a hot tub for about a year now - not sure if it's ever taken a bath or not!
Post 34 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 10:16
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On April 10, 2020 at 19:08, cshepard said...
C4 is working with LiftMaster/MyQ directly to develop an official driver. Liftmaster is apparently dragging their feet but someone from C4 said they should know more next month.

Drivercentral.com has a driver for the Honeywell Redlink T-stats, but there’s nothing for the non-Redlink stuff.

You can automate LiftMaster without MyQ by using a control module ([Link: creativeaccesssolutions.com]) and any contact closure device (Global Cache, Lutron Visor Control Receiver, etc.).

IMHO, MyQ driver is going to be cloud dependent.
OP | Post 35 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 14:56
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Also I've always wanted a faster way to cycle through scenes or lighting scenes. So if you have a button on a keypad, and you want it to cycle through three different scenes, in this propsective driver you coule just bind three connections in the driver to three lighting scenes - kind of like what the room control driver does for radio stations. It's not too hard to to do in programming but it would just streamline the process - especially if the driver is smart enough to know that if none of the scenes are currently active at the time of button press, it is to just jump to the next scene in the cycle.

I took a run at this. It turns out Control4 does not provide the required API call in their DriverWorks SDK to do this elegantly. There may be a workaround, but it would involve a bit of a hack, so I’m going to punt on this for now.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 36 made on Tuesday April 14, 2020 at 10:27
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On April 13, 2020 at 09:21, crosen said...
OK, I did a super basic version of this:

[Link: dropbox.com]

(To locate driver in Composer, search for "notes" or filter Manufacturer = "Whole Home Control")

AFAIK, you can't expand the text field of the properties beyond a single line, so I included separate properties for lines 1 through 5.

Thank you so much!
Works great!
Technology is cheap, Time is expensive.
Post 37 made on Wednesday April 15, 2020 at 07:49
c2tech
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On April 13, 2020 at 09:31, andrewinboulder said...
I used a company called Sealoc to "waterproof" an SR-260. It's been used with a TV at a hot tub for about a year now - not sure if it's ever taken a bath or not!

I saw this company at CEDIA last Year. What did it cost to get the SR-260 Coated?
Post 38 made on Thursday April 16, 2020 at 15:51
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The one I have been BEGGING for is an update of the Extra Vegetables driver for Crestron shades so that it shows feedback. Control is perfect for lights and shades. Lights get feedback. Shades don't. That means calling the shades to go to 30% or doing other events other than "open" and "close" are impossible.

Now that EV has been acquired by C4 they seemingly have no incentive to fix this. :(
Post 39 made on Saturday April 18, 2020 at 12:17
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I'd like to see a Master Thermostat driver like Houselogix had. Here's the description from the driver documentation.

OVERVIEW
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The Master Thermostat driver is a 'virtual thermostat' that relays commands to as many as 20 other thermostats. The current temperature displayed on the Master Thermostat is the calculated average of all connected thermostats.

For example, changing the mode to 'Heat' on this 'virtual' interface, will, in turn, change all connected thermostats to mode 'Heat'. This simplifies the otherwise extensive or time-consuming Control4 programming that would be required to normally accomplish such functionality.
OP | Post 40 made on Saturday April 25, 2020 at 06:44
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On April 13, 2020 at 14:56, crosen said...
I took a run at this. It turns out Control4 does not provide the required API call in their DriverWorks SDK to do this elegantly. There may be a workaround, but it would involve a bit of a hack, so I’m going to punt on this for now.

The above response was in reference to a driver that would let you easily cycle through lighting scenes from a keypad button similar to how the room control driver lets you cycle through media options.

It turns out that this is, in fact, possible to do. So, if there is still interest, I can work on this one.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
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