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Do You Need A Custom Control4 Driver?
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OP | Post 16 made on Saturday April 11, 2020 at 09:34
crosen
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I checked out the API doc and the IP2IR has an IR capture mode where it captures commands and sends them back over the network.

I will play around with this and see what comes out.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 17 made on Saturday April 11, 2020 at 10:52
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What about Loxone? I have been using their products and the LEDs strips and sensors work great. They have an open API. They have some really cool stuff.

[Link: loxone.com]

[Link: loxone.com]
Post 18 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 11:02
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What about a "watch" X but listen to "X" but maintain control of "X"

There is that annoying scenario in C4 when the customer wants to watch the superbowl on Xfinity, but then listen to music (like Sonos), AND still maintain control of the Xfinity box. It would be a bit like having "punch through" for a device like you have in the old URC remotes but automated so it's set up very quickly.

I've figured ways to do it in programming but it's a pain in the ass, Or maybe there is an easier way to do it than I'm thinking of.

Also I've always wanted a faster way to cycle through scenes or lighting scenes. So if you have a button on a keypad, and you want it to cycle through three different scenes, in this propsective driver you coule just bind three connections in the driver to three lighting scenes - kind of like what the room control driver does for radio stations. It's not too hard to to do in programming but it would just streamline the process - especially if the driver is smart enough to know that if none of the scenes are currently active at the time of button press, it is to just jump to the next scene in the cycle.
OP | Post 19 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 11:08
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On April 10, 2020 at 13:11, Dawn Gordon Luks said...
The Global Cache GC-IRE would be a great product to solve the following issue.

Older Control4 controllers (HC200, HC300, and HC500) have the ability to allow the use of 3rd party remotes via a built-in infrared target and internal Pronto hex codes. Over the past few years the hardware target in newer controllers has been changed and the only way to use 3rd party remotes with Control4 is by using older controllers. This is a problem, as we often like to use waterproof 3rd party remotes.
If you could write a driver for the GC-IRE that allows it to be used as a target for newer Control4 controllers it would be so appreciated.

I ordered a GC unit to test with. It arrives Wednesday.

Meanwhile, can you walk me through how the third party IR control worked on the older systems? I’d like to replicate that functionality as a first step.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 20 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 11:21
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who makes waterproof remotes anymore?
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Post 21 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 12:01
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URC MXW-920 old school but still there
Post 22 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 12:02
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Crosen, is there a way to force a control 4 interface to switch rooms on the back end programming?
OP | Post 23 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 12:22
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On April 12, 2020 at 12:02, andrewinboulder said...
Crosen, is there a way to force a control 4 interface to switch rooms on the back end programming?

I believe the answer is no, based on having reviewed the API docs and also seeing this question addressed in the official C4 forums. But, I don't know for certain. (The List Navigator in particular has a bunch of API calls I haven't gotten my head around.)
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
OP | Post 24 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 12:29
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Also I've always wanted a faster way to cycle through scenes or lighting scenes. So if you have a button on a keypad, and you want it to cycle through three different scenes, in this propsective driver you coule just bind three connections in the driver to three lighting scenes - kind of like what the room control driver does for radio stations. It's not too hard to to do in programming but it would just streamline the process - especially if the driver is smart enough to know that if none of the scenes are currently active at the time of button press, it is to just jump to the next scene in the cycle.

This is a good one to test out. I will try to have a proof of concept tomorrow.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 25 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 12:39
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On April 12, 2020 at 12:29, crosen said...
This is a good one to test out. I will try to have a proof of concept tomorrow.

Throw in the option to variable test would be cool too.

Ie
If night scene x, if day science y concept.
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Post 26 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 16:14
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A native, cloud-based, universal Alarm.com driver would be awesome! Need the ability to see contact status open / close, and arm / disarm.

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[Link: answers.alarm.com]
OP | Post 27 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 17:11
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On April 12, 2020 at 16:14, chris-L5S said...
A native, cloud-based, universal Alarm.com driver would be awesome! Need the ability to see contact status open / close, and arm / disarm.

edit: added site
[Link: answers.alarm.com]

I'd be keen to see that document, but it is behind a partner login.
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OP | Post 28 made on Sunday April 12, 2020 at 20:05
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On April 10, 2020 at 10:50, Rob Grabon said...
Yes please.

Notes
Doesn't do anything.
You drop it in like any other device in the tree, ability to change it's name in the tree, and a couple fields in properties (who, when, why) window to type notes in. Never shows up in navigator, or anywhere else.

Idea being, you can add it to design under an item, and it allows you to add notes about that other item. Say the light switch is in a stupid place, or you add a fake driver to breakout audio from a source, or just a place to leave a note behind on why something exists or how you set it up.

Sure there's way's to do Rem in programming windows, but looking for the ability to leave myself and the next guy a note on why this or that exists in design, or where something is located in the house. (Mostly for light switch physical locations.)

Somehow I missed this until now. Ok, easy, I’ll do this one shortly.
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Post 29 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 09:02
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On April 12, 2020 at 11:08, crosen said...
I ordered a GC unit to test with. It arrives Wednesday.

Meanwhile, can you walk me through how the third party IR control worked on the older systems? I’d like to replicate that functionality as a first step.

That's awesome!

Basically, 3rd party IR control uses Pronto Hex codes built-into the Composer Software to control just about anything.

See page 363: [Link: control4.com]
Post 30 made on Monday April 13, 2020 at 09:10
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On April 12, 2020 at 11:21, 3PedalMINI said...
who makes waterproof remotes anymore?

As mentioned above, URC has a waterproof remote. But this isn't the only use for 3rd party remotes. The options given by Control4 have been pretty sparse. You have the SR260 and the Neeo. You all know how I feel about the Neeo.

So, if you want more control, more buttons and more options in a standard remote form-factor, then a 3rd party remote is the way to go. Unfortunately, Control4 changed the IR sensor on their controllers after the HC200-HC500 series and this was no longer possible. The good news is that Control4 left the IR code in Composer, so we can take advantage of it.
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