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Post 16 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 12:44
Ernie Gilman
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On February 14, 2019 at 09:15, highfigh said...
That's the one I couldn't remember- still not accustomed to thinking of Metra in AV; I used a lot when I did car audio, though.

Tru dat.
Try to think of them now as Ethereal, or just get Brent's coordinates (email and phone number) in your address book!


Come to think of it, though, this product is VERY Metra-like. A few pieces of molded plastic to get something different done.
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Post 17 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 17:39
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On February 14, 2019 at 07:09, Brentm said...
The IEC-WP must be placed in a wall box, however it is just like any other NEMA style device (some with pug tails and some with screw terminals. I came up with it after my (then) wife complained about after she saw the extension cord hanging out of the laundry room ceiling (PJ to UPS), i went digging thru the garage to find a way to shut her up and saw the IEC power plug on the back of an old Compaq PC chassis. I removed it, went to Lowes and got a blank Decora plate, took both to the CnC shop at Metra and had them mated. Once I had it installed I thought "Damn" I need to be selling this.
Viola!

I used to make my own years ago before they became available. I used a Leviton white nylon power inlet and punched a hole in a single gang plate. I would usually put them at the rack so the display could be powered off of the same circuit and power conditioner as the source equipment and pre/pro in the rack. I used the twist-lock version.
Post 18 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 18:36
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On February 13, 2019 at 16:43, Fins said...
What do you think is different about the Metra than the midlite?

I know it goes in an electrical box.

From the pic on the Ethereal piece, it looks like there are 3 exposed metal terminals on the back of the outlet connected to the pigtails of the three wires in the left pic. Maybe I am making a bigger deal out of this but my feeling was a potential for the bare ground wire to contact one of the non-ground terminals when pushing into the outlet box. If the wires connected to side screw terminals or pushed in the back, like a standard receptacle I wouldn't have second guessed. The snapav one has 3ea metal points exposed on the back and had an issue once with shorting out when using in a metal outlet box, which is what has to be used in a versabox. Versabox was remote mounted in closet due to stud spacing behind TV and used powerkit from TV location to versabox.

The Midlite piece I linked has the romex sealed to the body of the outlet.
Post 19 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 18:47
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for the record Snaps Powerlink is IMO the best in the biz. truly simple, allows you to use a longer cord if needed and everything is in the box (recessed outlet,male end,two OC boxes and a 3ft cord.

Yes, I complimented Snap, Happy Tuck?

These are also called power bridges.
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Post 20 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 22:19
Ernie Gilman
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On February 14, 2019 at 18:36, imt said...
I know it goes in an electrical box.

Your complaint completely fit the complaint of someone who did not realize that.

From the pic on the Ethereal piece, it looks like there are 3 exposed metal terminals on the back of the outlet connected to the pigtails of the three wires in the left pic.

It sure does.
Maybe I am making a bigger deal out of this but my feeling was a potential for the bare ground wire to contact one of the non-ground terminals when pushing into the outlet box.

The bare ground wire would be screwed down to a box or wire-nutted to a ground wire, so could not make accidental contact with anything.
If the wires connected to side screw terminals or pushed in the back, like a standard receptacle I wouldn't have second guessed. The snapav one has 3ea metal points exposed on the back and had an issue once with shorting out when using in a metal outlet box,

Now this IS the problem you worry about.
which is what why it has to be used in a versabox.

Surely a blue PVC electrical box is all that's needed, though a versabox also solves the problem.
Versabox was remote mounted in closet due to stud spacing behind TV and used powerkit from TV location to versabox.

The Midlite piece I linked has the romex sealed to the body of the outlet.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 21 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 22:27
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On February 14, 2019 at 18:36, imt said...
I know it goes in an electrical box.

From the pic on the Ethereal piece, it looks like there are 3 exposed metal terminals on the back of the outlet connected to the pigtails of the three wires in the left pic. Maybe I am making a bigger deal out of this but my feeling was a potential for the bare ground wire to contact one of the non-ground terminals when pushing into the outlet box. If the wires connected to side screw terminals or pushed in the back, like a standard receptacle I wouldn't have second guessed. The snapav one has 3ea metal points exposed on the back and had an issue once with shorting out when using in a metal outlet box, which is what has to be used in a versabox. Versabox was remote mounted in closet due to stud spacing behind TV and used powerkit from TV location to versabox.

The Midlite piece I linked has the romex sealed to the body of the outlet.

The terminals are not exposed. They actually have heat shrink on them. The photo is not accurate.
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Post 22 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 23:35
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On February 14, 2019 at 18:47, 3PedalMINI said...
for the record Snaps Powerlink is IMO the best in the biz. truly simple, allows you to use a longer cord if needed and everything is in the box (recessed outlet,male end,two OC boxes and a 3ft cord.

Yes, I complimented Snap, Happy Tuck?

These are also called power bridges.

I wish they just sold the power inlet on its own. Don't really need the kit. However, the drawback of snaps is its a single molded unit into the faceplate. Fine when used on its own, but the benefit of Ethereal's or Midlite is you can use it with a dual gang electrical box (power & power inlet) Or combo LV/electrical box with decors plate.

I also like using IEC female right angle cords for low profile.

On February 14, 2019 at 22:27, edizzle said...
The terminals are not exposed. They actually have heat shrink on them. The photo is not accurate.

Perfect. That resolves my issues. Its the pic that made me shy of using them.

I will order a bunch of these in with my next Ethereal order.


Brent,

Fix the pic. I would have ordered years ago. :)
Post 23 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 02:20
Ernie Gilman
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On February 14, 2019 at 07:09, Brentm said...
...my (then) wife complained... i went digging thru the garage to find a way to shut her up....

Hence the "then."
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 24 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 08:15
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On February 14, 2019 at 07:09, Brentm said...
The IEC-WP must be placed in a wall box, however it is just like any other NEMA style device (some with pug tails and some with screw terminals. I came up with it after my (then) wife complained about after she saw the extension cord hanging out of the laundry room ceiling (PJ to UPS), i went digging thru the garage to find a way to shut her up and saw the IEC power plug on the back of an old Compaq PC chassis. I removed it, went to Lowes and got a blank Decora plate, took both to the CnC shop at Metra and had them mated. Once I had it installed I thought "Damn" I need to be selling this.
Viola!

Thanks for doing that- do you sell short white power cords?
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 25 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 08:20
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Delete, please
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 26 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 11:52
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On February 15, 2019 at 08:15, highfigh said...
Thanks for doing that- do you sell short white power cords?

No, not in white.
Sorry.
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Post 27 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 12:44
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On February 15, 2019 at 08:15, highfigh said...
Thanks for doing that- do you sell short white power cords?

[Link: stayonline.com]

[Link: infinitecables.com]


Like to find this last one in white:

[Link: sfcable.com]
Post 28 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 15:53
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On February 15, 2019 at 12:44, imt said...
[Link: stayonline.com]

[Link: infinitecables.com]

Like to find this last one in white:

[Link: sfcable.com]

I found Infinite Cables a few years ago when I installed a projector and wanted to replace the 6' black cable (WTF?) because it was on a ceiling mount.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
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