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Hey Matt - your new Ford GT arrive yet?
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Post 16 made on Saturday May 23, 2015 at 09:29
Dave in Balto
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Don't part it out, sounds too sweet to get rid of, keep them both.

I'm looking at a super sprint exhaust right now, never heard of the company before, Italian, from what I've read it's built beautifully and gives great sound.
Hey, careful man, there's a beverage here!

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Post 17 made on Saturday May 23, 2015 at 09:30
Dave in Balto
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Matt, have you ever taken it to the track, any idea what times she pulls.
Hey, careful man, there's a beverage here!

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Post 18 made on Saturday May 23, 2015 at 13:13
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Though not quite as rare a species as the Ford GT, there are finally some non-marketing videos coming out on the new 991 GT3 RS, which is seriously drool-worthy, and about 35% the cost, probably more like 40% with options.

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Post 19 made on Saturday May 23, 2015 at 13:23
3PedalMINI
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On May 23, 2015 at 13:13, Dean Roddey said...
Though not quite as rare a species as the Ford GT, there are finally some non-marketing videos coming out on the new 991 GT3 RS, which is seriously drool-worthy, and about 35% the cost, probably more like 40% with options.


I despise porsche's with a passion but OMG that thing is disgustingly sick!

No manual is sad :(
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 20 made on Saturday May 23, 2015 at 21:21
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On May 23, 2015 at 13:23, 3PedalMINI said...
I despise porsche's with a passion but OMG that thing is disgustingly sick!

No manual is sad :(

How can you despise porsche? Air cooled 911's are some of the best cars I have ever driven, and I have been lucky enough to drive a bunch of great cars on the track. E36, E46 M3, a few M5's, 996 GT3, RUF 996 GT2, F360 Stradale, etc.

By far the most fun I have ever had (on four wheels) was driving a 996 GT3. No nannies, instant throttle response, roaring exhaust. It can be steered with the throttle unlike anything I have ever driven. I can't imagine not loving the Porsche experience. To me they are exotics without quite as much pretense.
Post 21 made on Saturday May 23, 2015 at 23:39
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On May 23, 2015 at 21:21, KeithDBrown said...
Air cooled 911's are some of the best cars I have ever driven...

In total agreement!  I was at the dealer this afternoon and even my 2 year old kid knows how great a Porsche is:
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Post 22 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 00:26
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The Porsche is flat out sick/bad to the bone!

Quit being all nostalgic about the stick shift :)

With todays paddle shift transmission technology, you are not better than that.

You are not better than traction control.

You are not better than ABS.

You are not better than Active Body Control, if equipped.

You are not better than Race Launch technology if equipped.

You have been provided with the technology to keep both hands on the wheel.

Love ya, mean it, buh bye ;-))
Post 23 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 09:54
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On May 24, 2015 at 00:26, Hi-FiGuy said...
The Porsche is flat out sick/bad to the bone!

Quit being all nostalgic about the stick shift :)

With todays paddle shift transmission technology, you are not better than that.

Not the point
You are not better than traction control.

Still Not the point
You are not better than ABS.

Agreed, but Not the point
You are not better than Active Body Control, if equipped.

Not the point
You are not better than Race Launch technology if equipped.

Not the point
You have been provided with the technology to keep both hands on the wheel.

Not the point
Love ya, mean it, buh bye ;-))

So what is the point.
Well the point is not about being the fastest, if my concern was speed I would be driving a vehicle as spec'ed above.
The point is not pulling the greatest G's in a corner.
The point (at least for me) is pure simple fun, and fun means 3 pedals, no traction control, since I just may screw up this forces me to get better.
I get that I am a dinosaur but top down, three pedal driving is my form of therapy.
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Post 24 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 10:04
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On May 24, 2015 at 09:54, brent mccall said...

I get that I am a dinosaur but top down, three pedal driving is my form of therapy.

Your whole life is HDMI. I can only imagine how expensive conventional therapy would be for you. Cars are probably WAY less expensive.
Post 25 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 10:36
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It is all about balance.
Work = digital
Life = analog
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Post 26 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 10:48
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On May 24, 2015 at 00:26, Hi-FiGuy said...
The Porsche is flat out sick/bad to the bone!

Quit being all nostalgic about the stick shift :)


Love ya, mean it, buh bye ;-))

I agree with you, but its still a disconnected driving experience. Even chris harris in his video said that even though the tranny is incredible its still not as fun as a manual.

When the f-type jag came out it was only availible in autotragic. Jag listened and you can finally get the F-Type in manual!!!! This video pretty much sums up the experience!

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Post 27 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 11:35
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On May 24, 2015 at 10:36, brent mccall said...
It is all about balance.
Work = digital
Life = analog

Amen, and I am with you on the driving experience. On a track I am WAY faster if I take advantage of modern technology. On the road I am having WAY more fun if I am not. Besides, you can't safely take advantage of all of that speed/tech on the road.

A car, or motorcycle, that you can push a little while still keeping speed reasonable is a lot of fun. A 911 from the 80's is a perfect example. Same with an old muscle car, 2-valve Ducati Monster, E30/E36 M3, Subaru BRZ, etc.
Post 28 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 12:33
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;) That was my point, In a friendly way!

Last edited by Hi-FiGuy on May 24, 2015 12:50.
Post 29 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 12:34
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Porsche has said that they are now on a two track strategy. There is the maximum performance strategy and there is the driving enthusiast strategy. The 918 and GT3 fall into the maximum performance strategy track.

As much as some folks like rowing gears and such, if they don't have a car that can compete with the upper end of the sports car market (and of course up in the super-car market), then they have a problem. The Turbo can't really be the sports car contender, fast though it may be, so it falls to the GT3.

For the enthusiast driver, they have the Caymen GT4 and the like, which still has a manual.

The GT3 is one of the queens of the track day event (from what I've heard, I'm not so lucky as to be able to be involved in such things), if not The Queen. Without a DCT, it would likely not remain competitive. As much as some folks like to row gears, probably most of those folks who go to track days want to be competitive.

Though, I have to say that I can't imagine that the new 991 is remotely disappointing in the driver satisfaction area. Of course by the time I can afford a real sports car, there won't be anything really left that's serious and that has a manual. So I'll never even experience the manual shifting world (other than in my daily driver car which isn't quite the same.) Maybe that makes it easier for me to accept, though I can understand the John Henry aspects of a manual transmission on a track. I whine about how technology cheapens the value of mastery in the musicianship arena, so it's maybe a bit hypocritical not to do the same in competitive driving.

Still, it's not like having a DCT suddenly makes you a hero. You could put me in that RS, and a really good river in a Golf, and he'd probably toast me. There's still a lot of skill involved.
Dean Roddey
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Post 30 made on Sunday May 24, 2015 at 12:40
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Funny you mention that.
Out at Willow Springs they had a driving school where they started you out in Taurus SHO, then on to 5.0 Poontangs, them onto open wheel formula.

On the last day when you are bippin around the track in your open wheel thinking your hot stuff, your instructor blows by you in the Taurus, just to put you back into perspective.
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