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How long should this job take?
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Post 31 made on Wednesday September 15, 2004 at 21:10
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I saw your photos and have a few comments.
First, very impressive that you went and looked at the job, quoted the job, got the material and equipment delivered and did all that in the first day. Good going. 24 hours given what was done, as I had previously said, is about right for the RAW install. Customer won't ever call back for retraining even though it's pretty simple? Never have a defective piece? Never have RF problems? What if the MX-800 was VER1.0? Would the labor have been the same? Did you use URC stock emmitters? How about when the fall off? Was any of that factored in? I wonder.

You obviously missed the point of my post. I see from the photos what you did. Your time is appropriate for what was done. Certainly, there was an attic above or crawl below. Most of my installs are in 3 story buildings, NO ATTIC and ALL walls insulated - yes even the interiors and ceilings within the thermal envelope. Most of my installs are either remote located or stealthfully hidden in cabinets with Middle Atlantic racks. Exposed equipment racks such as that, I cover ALL wires in black braided sleeving to create umblicals to each component. Very time consuming but worth it in the end. Hence my apprehension to say it was doable in 40 hours.

Your remote equipment which was directly behind the set doesn't count as "remote." IMHO.

I am not however taking anything away from your install. It looks fine. I would have, given the money spent, demanded a better looking cabinet instead of a plain shelf. I damn sure would have found a closet somewhere to hide the HD boxes. It would have made the wall look great.

Am I wrong with this? Don't take this as a flame.
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OP | Post 32 made on Thursday September 16, 2004 at 10:14
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Oex

The "remote eqiuptment" was in the master bedroom, not sure if that was clear, weather or not they are "remote" enough to bear the title. And as Far as the the equiptment rack below the plasma's, I agree looks like crap, however, I did not sell the rack to the customer, and that was his temporary Cabinet. You can only do so much when when the cutomer supplies equiptment.

The Mx-200 is version 3, I supplied, and would not use version 1. emitters are stock, but superglued to quiptment, wont fall off without remover.

As far as return calls and or additional training, the job was time and materials, and would be the same for any return trips that are not warrenty issues.
OP | Post 33 made on Thursday September 16, 2004 at 10:21
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On 09/15/04 15:07 ET, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
I don't happen to use them, but can't MX-800s
be set up to use IR or RF, making it a perfectly
valid question to ask which method you intended
to use?

Mx-800 can be used in both RF & IR outputs, and had assignable emitters on the MRF-200

I personally do not understand how you could do
this job, alone, in 24 hours...your later post
detailing the time does not mention that anybody
helped. I don't like hanging plasmas all by myself.
Anything above, well, actually, even a 42 is
just a bit more than I want to handle, from the
front, snagging onto a mount by myself. Are you
sure maybe you didn't leave out a detail, as you
did in your initial description of the job?

This job was done alone, largest plasma was a 42". I prefer to work alone, makes QC a lot easier, however, on the commercial side of my biz I have help. For Large Plasma displays I actually have built a lift similar to a drywall lift to make wall mounting plasmas a sinch
You are installing at the right pace if you continue
to sell jobs quoted at prices based on your pace.
Also, if your pace needs to be slowed to avoid
mistakes, it is too fast.

I looked back at the responses to your post, and
I do not see anyone tooting their own horns.
I see people who are looking realistically at
the small amount of information that you provided,
who are not willing to guess at what you did not
include. Remember, when you make this list, that
you have a mental picture of the entire job and
the site, so your undetailed list means way more
to you than it does to any of us.

Again, I was looking for job averages, but my mistake, I will be more spacific next time.
Post 34 made on Thursday September 16, 2004 at 21:11
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On 09/15/04 04:39 ET, RHT said...
install " " into mast bedroom
closet located directly behind tv

That my friend, definately is NOT remote located!
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Post 35 made on Thursday September 16, 2004 at 23:25
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On 09/16/04 14:21 ET, RHT said...
Mx-800 can be used in both RF & IR outputs, and
had assignable emitters on the MRF-200

This job was done alone, largest plasma was a
42". I prefer to work alone, makes QC a lot easier,
however, on the commercial side of my biz I have
help. For Large Plasma displays I actually have
built a lift similar to a drywall lift to make
wall mounting plasmas a sinch

Again, I was looking for job averages, but my
mistake, I will be more spacific next time.
"I am extremely skeptical about the role of fruit in Newton's life."
Post 36 made on Thursday September 16, 2004 at 23:30
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On 09/17/04 03:25 ET, rmht said...
forgot my password and posted nothing.....
anyway I love reading the posts and seldom respond but,
drywall lift for plasma installs????
Its getting deep in here.
Annoyed our user names are alike
"I am extremely skeptical about the role of fruit in Newton's life."
OP | Post 37 made on Friday September 17, 2004 at 10:50
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On 09/17/04 03:30 ET, rmht said...
forgot my password and posted nothing.....
anyway I love reading the posts and seldom respond
but,
drywall lift for plasma installs????
Its getting deep in here.
Annoyed our user names are alike

Your a F***ing Idiot, I said its a lift, SIMILAR to a drywall lift. Alot of you sound helpless and capable of only a few things. Seems some of you have a hard time with the fact that someone can do multiple things at once. Over the years I have built up a pretty good metal fabrication shop in my garage. I built pretty much any custom mounts I need for my job along with any other thing I can think of, including a lift to help me.
Post 38 made on Friday September 17, 2004 at 11:43
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On 09/17/04 14:50 ET, RHT said...
Your a F***ing Idiot, I said its a lift, SIMILAR
to a drywall lift. Alot of you sound helpless
and capable of only a few things. Seems some
of you have a hard time with the fact that someone
can do multiple things at once.

Wow, what's with all the anger? Does someone have some issues they need to deal with? If you would like to respond to this with more hostility, please do, i don't mind.

Oh and by the way, we're all very proud of you that you can can do multiple things at once. Since you're so good i'm confused why you would ask a bunch of helpless losers for advice on your quotes.

Mike

This message was edited by MikeTech on 09/17/04 18:52 ET.
Post 39 made on Friday September 17, 2004 at 17:09
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Only my wife can speak to me like that RHT.
Anyway, I am not suprised that you find yourself working alone so much.

What do you have on that badass lift, velour wheels to protect finished flooring?
Even better why don't you post a picture so we all can learn from the master*****
"I am extremely skeptical about the role of fruit in Newton's life."
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