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** WIREPATH SURVEILLANCE ** POOR EXPERIENCE **
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Post 121 made on Saturday August 29, 2020 at 18:01
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On August 29, 2020 at 14:49, Fins said...
Really? If not bashing or bitching, what are you doing? Looks like a lot of bashing and bitching to me

Why are you asking what I'm doing?  I've said many times I'm sharing an experience I had.  Where exactly am I "bashing and bitching"

Maybe try some cognitive reading classes.
Post 122 made on Saturday August 29, 2020 at 18:04
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On August 29, 2020 at 15:40, Ernie Gilman said...
It is a lie to say that an unusable resolution is an "operational" product!

You think it's a lie to say that an older product that is still operational and working to the "potential of it's time", is an "operational" product?
Post 123 made on Saturday August 29, 2020 at 18:07
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On August 29, 2020 at 15:40, Ernie Gilman said...
Yeah, hey, who the hell chose to install a product with such a short warranty? Why not supply one with 5 year warranty?

For that matter, suddenly I'm thinking that we should tell our clients to replace such items when the warranty runs out. (After all, such a long warranty, could be seen as the manufacturer saying that's about as long as the product will last!)

Maybe this is true and I should have looked at a product with a longer warranty.  Honestly, I've never really worried about the length of a manufacture warranty.  Like many around here I have enough experience with products and brands that eventually we know which ones will last and which ones to avoid.
Post 124 made on Saturday August 29, 2020 at 18:46
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On August 29, 2020 at 18:07, internetraver said...
Maybe this is true and I should have looked at a product with a longer warranty.  Honestly, I've never really worried about the length of a manufacture warranty.  Like many around here I have enough experience with products and brands that eventually we know which ones will last and which ones

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Post 125 made on Sunday August 30, 2020 at 10:27
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On August 29, 2020 at 18:04, internetraver said...
You think it's a lie to say that an older product that is still operational and working to the "potential of it's time", is an "operational" product?

Does your question imply that the cameras are operating to the "potential of its time"?

On August 29, 2020 at 10:08, internetraver said...
I've also been to job's where they have a POS old camera system that is still alive and kicking.  It's doubtful you could even make out an image on the recording the resolution is so bad but they're still operational.

You must be quite a salesman if the original performance of the cameras is such that it's "doubtful you could even make out an image on the recording, the resolution is so bad...."

If I were your customer and you installed a system that, when new, was that bad, I'd refuse to pay. I did not see how it was even vaguely possible that you were describing the performance of the system when it was new!
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Post 126 made on Sunday August 30, 2020 at 10:32
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On August 29, 2020 at 18:04, internetraver said...
You think it's a lie to say that an older product that is still operational and working to the "potential of it's time", is an "operational" product?

It may be operational, but is it actually useful if the resolution doesn't allow identifying things and people in order to resolve a problematic situation? Videotaped crimes show the equipment to be 'operational', but if the video is as blurry as a Bigfoot or UFO video, it's really not 'useful'.
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Post 127 made on Sunday August 30, 2020 at 11:18
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On August 30, 2020 at 10:27, Ernie Gilman said...
Does your question imply that the cameras are operating to the "potential of its time"?

You must be quite a salesman if the original performance of the cameras is such that it's "doubtful you could even make out an image on the recording, the resolution is so bad...."

If I were your customer and you installed a system that, when new, was that bad, I'd refuse to pay. I did not see how it was even vaguely possible that you were describing the performance of the system when it was new!

So if you came into a job today that had an analog camera/DVR system that was installed around the year 2000, a time when max resolution was what, 480i?, and the system was still operational, you would expect that old system to perform better than it was performing?
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