You create a reputation for yourself, bringing up political things over and over, and then are in ANY way surprised when someone acts as though you have a reputation as someone who does that? Sheesh!

Bruce, TEA means Taxes Enough Already. You don't seem to be in favor of the folks who are just plain DONE accepting the level of taxes we have to pay. Do you just love how much taxes you pay? When you pay your taxes, doesn't your emotional state have something in common with the TEA party people?

Teabagging is laying your scrotum on someone's face. You use that term for people who want to pay less in taxes. You are scum.

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When the T party started they even feferred to themselves tea baggers.

Lighten up Ernie.

...well look it up on the Urban dictionary. It's not a gay slur nor did I intend it that way...


Animosity? I'm not the one calling people "SCUM".

+1 Congrats on the kiddo's. My co worker and his wife are having their first today!

Radioreah, it's always entertaining to stir things up around here. Politics are not really OT as they are pretty important to us and our businesses... I've said this before and I'll say it again, "OT" posts, if you aren't interested, don't open them!

Just as I don't go to the fair and balanced news station(s)! 8>)

I'm sorry to have to point this out, but it meant Taxes Enough Already, and even though I've already said that, you're too ignorant to call it the TEA Party; you call it the T party. As though "T" is the entire name.

Your statement is totally wrong. "When the TEA Party started" is wrong, and "they even referred to themselves as tea baggers" is wrong.

The phrase was first used on an anti-TEA Party protester's sign and was picked up both by people who knew what it meant and people who did not know what it meant. See [Link: theweek.com].

And gee, imagine that: the conservatives who used it mostly did not know what it meant. The liberals who used it mostly did. Imagine that: conservatives are not aware of slimy puerile fratboy behavior but liberals, familiar with such crudities, instantly know what it is.


I'm usually not this severe, but this is just enough.

From the article:




I'd say that my objections to the use of the term have now been covered: it's a gross term and its grossness becomes the subject, usually accompanied by juvenile laughter, allowing the actual issues to be ignored. Yes, some conservatives used the term when, surprise of surprises, they were not as well-informed about gross, juvenile pranks as those of the left are; once they heard what it meant they either rejected it or tried to turn its meaning on its head. IT WAS NEVER SIMPLY ACCEPTED.

A bunch of grumpy f%ckers around here lately. Haven't things picked up enough you guys have other things to do these days?

No kidding. I simply abbreviated the Tea to "T"... well that's Ernie.

How did "you get what you pay for" turn into this steaming pile?

Your statement is totally wrong. "When the TEA Party started" is wrong, and "they even referred to themselves as tea baggers" is wrong.

Funny, I just recall all of the Tea Partiers out demonstrating with Tea Bags hanging from their hats and referring themselves as Tea Baggers.
I didn't need your explicit details as to what T-bagging is, and to say Liberals know all about T-bagging and the poor Conservatives isn't is pretty insulting
to say the least. You are twisting my words around and trying to make me to look like I am flinging "gay slurs at you and the Tea-Party is laughable) - and trying to stereotype all Liberals as knowing the expression means... When Liberals refer to Tea Party members as T-Baggers they are not referring to the sex act. They are abbreviating the party's name.



Oh yeah we ALL instantly knw the meaning! Come on man.




Well I can't help it if they are uninformed idiots.

Signed: SCUM

GIVE IT A FvCKING REST. ALL OF YOU. Jesus, this site has gone to complete sh1t cause you can't keep your stupid ass bickering off of it. I hope to see some of you over at IP and ESI, the rest of your bickering fools can stay here. EVERY goddamn thread becomes a political pissing contest. Just STFU about it all already.

I came to this thread looking for opinions on Wirepath CCTV.  There are some folks who need a forced time-out from this site so they can reflect on their actions and decide if they want to offer anything of value.

Do any of you have anything of value to add to the ACTUAL TOPIC?

LOL


I simply made a non political comment and all hell broke out. I'm giving it a rest, but to be personally attacked, I guess I don't know who pissed in Ernie's Wheaties.

Didn't you guys know that this entire thread was started and driven by a guy who had a problem and a very unreasonable response to it? It NEVER was really on topic, unless you're up for product rants.

But okay.

Well, it’s been about 6 years since this cluster F but I feel the need to share another recent experience I had with a Luma NVR.  I’m all for second chances, I believe people and companies can learn and grow, especially from mistakes.

A little short of 4 years ago I decided to give Snap surveillance another shot.  They had been doing it for a while by this time and my hope was they worked out any of their growing pains.  I didn’t get in too deep with the product as I still support and honestly recommend other brands first.  Over this 4 year period I think I may have installed 3 or 4 Luma systems, so not much at all.

I received a call about 2 weeks ago from my client who has an 8 channel Luma NVR with 6, 700 series IP Cameras and he is no longer able to see his cameras on the app.  The system is 3 years and 9 months old.  There was a firmware update available which addressed an issue with Lumalink.  That must be the issue so no big deal I though and tried to push it through OVRC.  Multiple attempts through the cloud but they all failed.  I took a trip out there Monday to try to push it through locally (via OVRC but on site) but no luck on that either.  Then it was time to log into the web browser and try to force it through.  The web browser was running extremely slow and working with tech support (and level 2 support) we had no success with that either.  The last option was to do it manually with a monitor and mouse which I don’t keep on my truck.  I explained to my client that I would need to return with a monitor in a few days which he was cool with.

3 hours later that day he called me and said his lawn guy was there working and someone stole his truck!  Yeah, for real…..  Now the homeowner knew I was working on the surveillance but didn’t know to what extent and his son and the lawn guy were begging him to check the footage from his driveway camera to see if it picked up anything.  He was of course unable to access his system through the app still.  I told him the timing couldn’t be worse but I would check when I returned later in the week.  His lawn guy is like many around here, one man crew and his truck and equipment are his life.

I made it out there 2 days later with a monitor and explained to him that the odd’s were not good of getting anything from the theft because of how the NVR was acting when I tried to update it with the help of tech support.  He was not happy!  Have I mentioned yet that he and his wife are both lawyers?  The first thing I did was call tech support to do whatever we could to get any footage from the NVR.  Nothing!  It appears that all recording footage stopped on the Friday before all this went down.  I moved on and was finally able to push the update through the NVR manually with a monitor and USB drive.  Honestly, at this point I had no hope the NVR would work.  Everything that we could test we tested.  The network is very basic but I still went through the steps they wanted me to go through because that’s just what you do when troubleshooting.  I knew it early on but finally tech support agreed that the NVR had failed.  The product had been in for 3 years and 9 months and the warranty on the NVR is 3 years.  Tech support told me that they do have a discount program for equipment that is out of warranty.  He transferred me over and they offer 15% off for equipment that is out of warranty.

For those of you who think this is just another “bash snap” thread, I can assure you, it is not.  I’m simply sharing my experience with a product that I decided to give a second chance to and you guys can take it or leave it.  Like many of you I did the same thing with the OVRC power products and got hit with two rounds of recalls on them.  Yes Snap acknowledged both rounds of failures with the power products and replaced them and even paid cash for the time.  The facts are that the NVR IS out of warranty and they DO offer 15% off of a replacement.  Most companies don’t do that.

I’ve been in this industry for a long time and fully understand that things don’t last like they used to.  New technology comes out fast, connections change quickly and planned obsolescence is a real thing.  However, when it comes to systems that are designed as life and property protection, I personally feel like 3 years and 9 months is not acceptable.