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Russound MCA-C3 without keypads
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Post 16 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 10:42
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Russound APP for iPhone/iTouch/iPad released yesterday. Gives you control over all zones and sources. Go to App Store. $9.99. The unit must be on same network as your I device and have the latest firmware which requires RS232 interface from PC to C3 unit.
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Post 17 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 10:54
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In a matter of approx. 1 day, you received responses from a dozen or so industry professionals / experts and they all said the same thing. If that is not a clue for you to either hire a pro or change your thought process then so be it.
I understand you have limited knowledge and you are going in the direction that you are because you are in your comfort zone, but you might want to take a step back and either try to learn more or hire a pro and be done with it.
Just sayin
OP | Post 18 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 11:19
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I don't have it yet.

But check out their amp;list=UUxeZYfY4WUhprSn-9s-gGrg&index=2&feature=plcp">Video).

If anyone has a better solution for Audio and Video switching, I'm all ears.
Post 19 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 12:15
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Myro:Bridge was created to "bridge" and extend Russound systems to support HDMI Switchers, Sonos ZonePlayers and iTunes via Apple Remote protocol.

Our source control firmwares offer transport control (Play/Pause/Next/Previous) as well as full metadata. Since Myro:Bridge acts as a RNET Smart Source it sits on the RNET bus and emulates an iBridge Dock.

All control/metadata is available via Russound Keypads, Apps, and via the Russound controllers RS232 port (HAI, Control4, etc).

Feel free to ask me any questions about the product.
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Post 20 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 14:15
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I think we have all just been Myro:Bridge trolled.
Post 21 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 15:51
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On May 30, 2012 at 14:15, jmj52 said...
I think we have all just been Myro:Bridge trolled.

No, a dealer of ours sent me the link to these -- here to answer any questions and to clarify what our product does. If you feel that is "trolling" then sorry. I'm here to help if needed!
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Post 22 made on Wednesday May 30, 2012 at 22:36
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Hey gang, I pointed Myro Control to these threads this morning.  It seemed like their products had been mentioned in 2-3 threads recently so thought it would be appropriate if they could respond to questions directly.
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Post 23 made on Thursday May 31, 2012 at 00:18
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Looks pretty cool. Thanks, Paul.
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Post 24 made on Thursday May 31, 2012 at 00:56
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holy crap OP! this is a dead ringer for a nice control system (rti seems appropriate) and iOS/android app. you dont have to bounce around from one app to another or figure out what room you are controlling. put all 10 rooms on one page! you can build a "matrix style page" select source then select rooms for that source, or any other number of solutions to provide full control of entire system without having to figure anything out. a pro could do this with RTI very cost effectively. it would be money well spent. in fact if the keypads are $100 ea. you have 10 zones, that is $1000. you could easily get an XP3 and programming for that. the difference is you would have spent your money on something with substance not a pile of cobbled together shit!
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Post 25 made on Thursday May 31, 2012 at 01:03
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also, you wouldnt really need the myro :( the controller could sync both audio and video switches. especially since it would be the only device issueing commands.
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OP | Post 26 made on Thursday May 31, 2012 at 08:20
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@ Zohan, edizzle:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not cheap. I'd love to hire a pro to do this, but I can't find anyone around here. I'm living in Vienna, Austria and I'll even have to get the multizone amp from the US because all we have is either Sonos, or systems that start at 3000€ for the amp only. I've been to 6 places and told them what I wanted (basic functions using IR with small CC remotes, Media selection via apps, no keypads). They told me quite bluntly that I was an idiot and really what I wanted was this Sonos system. One of them even agreed with me, that my solution would be more convenient, but said it couldn't be done.

If you happen to know someone in Austria who can do this (Germany or Switzerland would probably be close enough even), do tell me. Otherwise, I'll have to give it a go myself with the help of some DIY and tech-savvy friends, trainwreck or not. It already pretty much works if you use the keypads as IR routers. Going to look into that Xantech solution, which would replace the Myrobridge AND the keypads, but if it's too much of a hassle, I'll just pay up.
Post 27 made on Thursday May 31, 2012 at 09:27
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gmc911 , since i was the one that mentioned xantech piece , i feel that little " disclaimer " should follow . First of all , it will not replace myrobridge AND keypads ( unless you buy two , and then you will really create trainwreck ) , second - it was simply an " exercise in possibilities " , not something i would design with a brand new system . About ten years ago i was forced to use that piece , when nothing else was available ( except spending $$$$ ) , if you are looking for a better solution - look at Bitwise Controls or RTI - those are more " budget friendly " and easier to program than Crestron or AMX , yet it will allow you to accomplish your project without " experimenting " . Finally , i would drop the idea of using PC as media server / centerpiece of your design . It can work , as long as the end user does not have any direct access to the PC , and it only serves a purpose of headless server i.e squeezebox , sonos server etc . Otherwise you are opening up a whole new can of worms .
Post 28 made on Thursday May 31, 2012 at 22:24
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^^^^^^^ good advice.
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OP | Post 29 made on Saturday June 2, 2012 at 19:57
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thanks again for the advice.

One final question:
I looked up RTI and found this: [Link: rticorp.com]

Would it be possible with this to control both an HDMI switcher and the Russound with simple IR remotes? I don't like to be depended on a certain brand/system/hardware. Basic examples would be:

As in
"If IR in zone 1 presses "source 1" switch Russound source 1 to zone 1 and HDMI source 1 to zone 1"
"If IR in zone 2 presses "source 3" switch russound source 3 to zone 2 and send no signal to HDMI switcher"
"If IR in zone 1 presses "source 2" switch russound source 2 to zone 1 and HDMI source 2 to zone 1"

And thanks for the disclaimers; I'm well aware this is a trainwreck in the making. Years ago I was working a job basically doing technical support for end users (of some sort at least) and totally feel your pain. But I'm not willing to compromise on this by accepting the solution everyone here wants to sell to me.

I want exactly the can of worms you are talking about: A pc with direct access as a media center. Since I'm the end user and have been working with a single zone (HT)PC for some years, I don't think that will be a huge problem.

If you tell me I don't need the keypads and the myrobridge with that RTI, I'll get that thing, get a "RTI IR programming for dummies" and work it out. If you say it doesn't work, I'll get the messy solution with keypads routing IR and Myro controlling the switch.
Post 30 made on Saturday June 2, 2012 at 20:04
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Go with your original route.

RTI is dealer only so you wont have access to software or hardware.

The solution everyone is trying to sell you is the right way to do waht you want.

You could use iPads, Touchpanels (RTI), Droid devices etc..... you would be tied to a brand and an integrated solution that wold make your family happy and impress your friends.

Your train wreak is a waste of money and you would be better off with separate subsystems through out the house.

If no one here has anything to gain why would you not take the advice and run with it.
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