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Post 46 made on Tuesday April 10, 2012 at 23:04
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Why would any company keep all there jobs in America? The fact is that America is not the biggest market in the world anymore. Most, if not all major companies do more than half there sales in markets in the emerging countries. Don't you think these countries that are buying American products want factories in there countries? America is no longer going to be the center of the world, with the exception of Military force. All the nostalgic, made in America people need to get over it and stop being lazy. Apple does not build products just for low price labor. China and India have more educated people than we do! We should be ashamed of our welfare asses and hit the books. Unions have taught Americans that if you put the time in than you will be guaranteed a job and a pension. This is a made up notion, you put your time and effort in every week in exchange for a pay check, not a guarantee to being taken care of for life!
Post 47 made on Wednesday April 11, 2012 at 01:14
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On April 10, 2012 at 23:04, InHomeDemo said...
Why would any company keep all there jobs in America?

So that we remain a first world nation?
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Post 48 made on Wednesday April 11, 2012 at 01:16
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A lot of companies are moving their operations out of China. Vietnam is the new China, lower cost labor, excellent quality control, less bureaucracy. China is currently experiencing a skilled labor shortage, that along with higher wages and electrical power rationing has made China a lot less desirable these days for manufacturers.
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Post 49 made on Wednesday April 11, 2012 at 02:21
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They wanted to move operations to somalia but they couldn't compete with the income levels of open seas piracy...
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Post 50 made on Wednesday April 11, 2012 at 17:35
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On April 10, 2012 at 23:04, InHomeDemo said...
Why would any company keep all there jobs in America? The fact is that America is not the biggest market in the world anymore. Most, if not all major companies do more than half there sales in markets in the emerging countries. Don't you think these countries that are buying American products want factories in there countries? America is no longer going to be the center of the world, with the exception of Military force. All the nostalgic, made in America people need to get over it and stop being lazy. Apple does not build products just for low price labor. China and India have more educated people than we do! We should be ashamed of our welfare asses and hit the books. Unions have taught Americans that if you put the time in than you will be guaranteed a job and a pension. This is a made up notion, you put your time and effort in every week in exchange for a pay check, not a guarantee to being taken care of for life!

Entitlements and corupt beurocrats.. Remember years ago when the "crazy people" were screaming about jobs being lost to over seas workers and nobody did anything to stop it from happening?  Becuse the majority was brainwased by individuals like  bill clinton into thinking this was a good thing for everyone.  And what do you mean "America"?  Is that north or south? becuse a lot of jobs went south and some of them went north to canada. 
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Post 51 made on Wednesday April 11, 2012 at 18:00
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US citizens didn't just decide one day to take the term American for themselves as if no one else in the 2 continents matter. It sure would be great for our haters if we did because then they could point their finger and say "its not fair!".

"The Americas" is what the continents were called before states and countries were carved out. Forgive those of us in the United States for being proud of the fact that we turned a piece of North America into the land of opportunity, a great nation made up of people from every corner of the earth.

When we call ourselves American it literally means "we are proud of being part of North America" not "we own it all".

And for the record... NAFTA is very far from whats going on with China. American consumer dollars buy products that were built by Chinese. The money doesnt return to our economy the same way it would if the products we buy were built by Americans. Instead a portion goes into the companies pocket and the Chinese economy via manufacturing and working class consumerism.

Free trade between countries that share our border and continent make a lot more sense than funneling wealth into the pockets of a nation that has nuclear weapons pointed at us.
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Post 52 made on Wednesday April 11, 2012 at 22:57
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On April 11, 2012 at 18:00, 39 Cent Stamp said...
US citizens didn't just decide one day to take the term American for themselves as if no one else in the 2 continents matter. It sure would be great for our haters if we did because then they could point their finger and say "its not fair!".

"The Americas" is what the continents were called before states and countries were carved out. Forgive those of us in the United States for being proud of the fact that we turned a piece of North America into the land of opportunity, a great nation made up of people from every corner of the earth.

When we call ourselves American it literally means "we are proud of being part of North America" not "we own it all".

And for the record... NAFTA is very far from whats going on with China. American consumer dollars buy products that were built by Chinese. The money doesnt return to our economy the same way it would if the products we buy were built by Americans. Instead a portion goes into the companies pocket and the Chinese economy via manufacturing and working class consumerism.

Free trade between countries that share our border and continent make a lot more sense than funneling wealth into the pockets of a nation that has nuclear weapons pointed at us.

Well yes and no.  Its the good old Clinton era gov who put the rubber stamp on the documents that approved not only NAFTA but also the WTO's link in all of this. republican  / Democrat I am not distinguishing here but they all created a business pipeline to the east and excessive business taxation as an incentive so manufacturing fled this country like rats leaving a ship on fire. Microsoft at one point even threatened to relocate everything to Canada if the Clinton administration didn't back off.

We all know we should be paying about $225.00 retail for a cheep bluray player that should have been built in the USA. but as you know that price is now around $60.00 retail for an Asian built unit.  Everyone is now addicted to super cheep stuff which means there is absolutely no hope of getting target / walmart / best buy type product manufacturing back into this country unless something extraordinarily dramatic happens like war breaks out in China. That coupled with the US Gov offering some serious long term incentives to all of these jump ship company's to come back to the states.
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Post 53 made on Friday April 13, 2012 at 23:34
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My point is not that companies shouldn't build products here in the U.S., but that there is more going on than cheap labor. Cheap labor for items such as low end children's toys and dollar store items sends work overseas. Cheap labor for electronics and higher end goods isn't that much of an incentive to send jobs oversees. On the other hand, excessive regulation, taxation, and the lack of a skilled manufacturing work force is an incentive to send work overseas. There are old timers retiring in this Country with no trained replacements. Our education system is a complete failure. If you want any subsidized education at all, a student should be required to pursue a job that is needed for the economy. Jobs like engineers, machine workers, and nurses. The corporate tax rate should be slashed to fifteen percent. Any regulation that doesn't make sense, like global warming, should be rescinded immediately. That being said, global companies should have factories every where. GM has plants in China, Toyota has plants in the U.S. A global economy is good for everyone, unless a country is lazy and inefficient.
Post 54 made on Friday April 13, 2012 at 23:52
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Yes, the last post is proof that our education system is a complete failure.  Yikes.
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Post 55 made on Saturday April 14, 2012 at 08:10
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On April 13, 2012 at 23:34, InHomeDemo said...
On the other hand, excessive regulation.... any regulation that doesn't make sense, like global warming, should be rescinded immediately.

Please define "your view" excessive corporate or business regulation.

And please explain, in your view, why global warming regulation is wrong for our country and our world.

And please this time, use paragraphs (hint: it's the Enter/Return <--| key on your keyboard that allows you to start a new paragraph).

Last edited by FP Crazy on April 15, 2012 21:01.
Post 56 made on Saturday April 14, 2012 at 21:20
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On April 13, 2012 at 23:34, InHomeDemo said...
My point is not that companies shouldn't build products here in the U.S., but that there is more going on than cheap labor.

Cheap labor for items such as low end children's toys and dollar store items sends work overseas.

Cheap labor for electronics and higher end goods isn't that much of an incentive to send jobs oversees.

On the other hand, excessive regulation, taxation, and the lack of a skilled manufacturing work force is an incentive to send work overseas.

There are old timers retiring in this Country with no trained replacements.

Our education system is a complete failure.

If you want any subsidized education at all, a student should be required to pursue a job that is needed for the economy. Jobs like engineers, machine workers, and nurses.

The corporate tax rate should be slashed to fifteen percent.

Any regulation that doesn't make sense, like global warming, should be rescinded immediately.

That being said, global companies should have factories every where.

GM has plants in China, Toyota has plants in the U.S. A

global economy is good for everyone, unless a country is lazy and inefficient.


InHomeDemo
This is all over the map, I am sure you are trying to focus in on a point, but it sounds like you are trying to make a half dozen points in no specific order. Can you please fill in the spaces I have provided in your singular paragraph above so that we can understand what you are trying to tell us?
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Post 57 made on Sunday April 15, 2012 at 19:45
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On April 14, 2012 at 21:20, RTI Installer said...
InHomeDemo
This is all over the map, I am sure you are trying to focus in on a point, but it sounds like you are trying to make a half dozen points in no specific order. Can you please fill in the spaces I have provided in your singular paragraph above so that we can understand what you are trying to tell us?

He doesn't know. But he has proven that our educational system is having problems and will give anyone a diploma. InHomeDemo, you did get your diploma, right?
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