We live in America and it is his choice good or bad to run his business as he see's fit!

How is it different from one of use choosing not to do business with someone who is a pain in the ass or who wants a project we deem not worthy

Be careful what you want the pc police may get you!

So if Muslims bought up all of the property around you for 50 miles and made all the businesses Muslim only... you would be okay with that?

I know that sounds crazy but if you rewind about 50 years when the "coloreds" were not allowed to shop/eat/sit in specific places you start to see how that might cause a problem.

Rounding up the Jews/Gays/Gypsies etc was not an overnight phenomenon in Nazi Germany (or Yugoslavia or the Congo). It started small with things like deciding who can shop/eat/sit in specific places.

So i stand by what i said... if you want to act like Hitler... get your own country like he did.

Choosing not to sell or do business with a single person because you don't think it would be good business for you or them is a LOT different then excluding an entire group of people because of where they were born or their religous beliefs. 



Pay attention Ed, I never said take away this guys freedom to do so, just don't empower it. 

I never said I agreed with him. All I said is be careful because it's a slippery slope and you may be next!

I wasn't saying you agree with him. I'm just responding to the topic.

If the guy doesn't want to do business with Muslims (or whoever) there really isn't anything we can do about it. Unless of course.... he makes a public statement about it and finds himself at the wrong end of a lawsuit. If i lived near him i would walk in there quoting Allah hoping he sent me away. Would be nice to take the summer or 2 off on him.

There is an entire group of people who want something for nothing so what happens if I chose not to business with them? It's a group and I don't want to service them! Just sayin!

Millionaires?

Yeah, they always want something for nothing but I keep installing stuff for them, crazy bastards.

Is this guy really a racist or just an asshole? Reading the quotes from him in the article you could assume he is a racist but that's not actually what he said when you really think about it. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending this assclown. I am just trying to decide if he is a racist or not. He didn't make a claim that he wouldn't do business with anyone of a particular race. He said he wouldn't do business with Liberals or Muslims. Neither of those is a "race" unless something has changed in the world and I missed the memo. I don't believe there are any consumer protections about political affiliation. There may be some consumer protections for religion but that seems unlikely. Now, if you assume that all Muslims are of middle eastern decent then that would seem to me to be stereotyping a religion. Since we know that there are Muslims of all color and origin, as it is a global religion like many other religions. Yes, there are a lot of Muslims that come out of Arab nations so with a bit of a stretch you could try to make it a race issue but he clears that up by stating Arabs of non-Christian faith which would exclude Jewish people from Israel as well. Again, this leans more to a political and religious discrimination than a racial discrimination. It is still discrimination but does he have a right to not do business with someone based on a political belief or religious belief? The political discrimination is just an asshole move and probably cannot be challenged except in a civil lawsuit. Businesses have a right to not do business with anyone they want in most states, I believe. In reality I doubt that he would have a lot of liberal clients anyway as most liberals I have known over the years are not into gun ownership or concealed carry of a gun. The religious discrimination could result in a civil lawsuit BUT (devil's advocate here) is there any conflict of interest between the state's laws on gun ownership and the Muslim faith's teaching of Sharia law? This makes the assumption that Muslim's are required by their religion to follow Sharia law above and before the laws of a government. If that is the case and the religious laws are in conflict with state laws he may actually be in the right, even though he is morally wrong.

Like I said, I am not defending him but simply looking at the article from a different angle. His reasoning is obviously discriminatory but he is not refusing to do business with someone based on the color of their skin if you read his quotes in the article. There is a moral debate to be had here but legally he may be within his rights. The attempt to link him to the activities of Hitler are a bit of a stretch. I get the argument but it is a bit off. Hitler started the campaign to denegrate Jews, homosexuals and people of "color" well after he went after the Socialists and Communists. He used the state controlled media to get his message out over a period of years, in effect brainwashing the populous. The German people followed along and history seems to tell us that most were ignorant of what was happening with the Jews until very late into the war. Again, a state controlled media played a big part of covering up what was happening. This all started before he was actually in power of the country. While history certainly does repeat itself it is doubtful that this country would allow the same attrocities as those of Germany under Nazi rule. It is highly doubtful that this shop owner has enough pull or manipulation techniques to get into a public office and eventually become POTUS. Hitler was able to do what he did by removing all political opponents. That won't happen in America. This guy is an assclown who needs to attend some classes on tolerance for certain. Racist is the term most commonly thrown around by the left when describing anyone of controversy on the right. The same way socialist is thrown at anyone of controversy on the left. It is not an accurate description of what the person really is saying or how they are acting.

Actually the last time I listened to it, I heard him say "Non Christian" Liberals or Muslims...So I guess not a racist as long as a Muslim is Christian....is that even possible, since Muslim is a religioun?

So business can't. How do you handle it when the patrons can? The other night one of the servers had a table place their order for food. The server was walking away and heard them say that they didn't want a white server. He put the order in and went back to the table. They told him that they had changed their mind and wanted the food to go.

Wow, in this day and age people still support or don't care about racism or xenophobia.

We've really not come very far have we?

This story describes the typical racist moron. They don't want a white server so they are taking the food to go? What about the white guy cooking and packaging the food to go? What about the white guy at the register? Their logic works just long enough to make a show for the crown but when you sit down and do the math you realize that racism is ridiculous and those with racist opinions and views are ridiculous. You have to start at the root of the problem not just look at what happens.

If the people at the table say "i don't want a white server" the manager says "well, i have a white server so you either get a white server or you find some place else to eat". In this example the people at the table are being ridiculous and the manager is telling them they are being ridiculous. The restaurant has done nothing wrong and the people at the table can go somewhere else.

This is totally different from that same manager posting a sign on their window that says "we only hire white servers". If the manager had a sign out front that said "we only hire white servers" then the manager is being ridiculous. This manager is excluding every other race/color (whatever people are calling themselves these days to pretend they are different) from working as a server for no reason.

First you haven't looked at the people cooking your food very close. The majority are illegals that bust their butt but that's a whole different can of worms. You stated it correctly "ridiculous". No where in the Constitution does it say anything about not having the freedom to be ridiculous. So I should be able to ridiculously turn down anyone that I don't want in MY business if I want. Better point wouldn't you prefer supporting a business that has the same beliefs as you do?

I totally just need a two word catch phrase for installs then I can land a reality tv show... Hmm.