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Monster Pro 7000 or equivalent.
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Post 1 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 20:20
william david design
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Working on a client's house after 3 other installers botched it. I told her the $4.99 surge protector wouldn't cut it and that she needed to invest between $300.00 and $1500.00 for surge/power conditioner and she said "I''ll spend whatever is necessary to make it right".

I need a rack mount piece but need to find out where/what unit to get.
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Post 2 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 20:23
anyhomeneeds
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How long hove you been doing CI work?

In order of my preferences:
Furman
Panamax
APC
Tripplite
Monster

Where to get, any good distributor will carry at least one of those lines.
"You can't fix stupid."
Post 3 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 20:37
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No SurgeX?
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OP | Post 4 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 20:47
william david design
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On December 20, 2010 at 20:23, anyhomeneeds said...
How long hove you been doing CI work?

In order of my preferences:
Furman
Panamax
APC
Tripplite
Monster

Where to get, any good distributor will carry at least one of those lines.

33 years.
Usually I sell the Snxp av units or Panamax but in this case the client is what I call a "player" which means she will spend whatever I tell her to spend. My Panamax/Monster source folded and I never really followed up on a new source. Now that the client wants to be up and running in 2 days I have to scramble. AXI sells APC but their only unit in stock is a $300.00 retail piece.

Even I have to risk getting "flamed" so I put my ego aside for a candid assessment on what the latest and greatest options in this category...
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Post 5 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 20:55
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PS Audio. Love the Powerplay 9000. Hooked up to the net so I can configure and reset from anywhere, get email's if there is a problem. Pair it up with a Powerpak 1500 UPS and you're set. Not cheap but worth it!
"Quality isn't expensive, it's Priceless!"
Post 6 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 21:07
edizzle
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get a nice furman piece from e*e*t*n*c* source. they are right in your back yard
I love supporting product that supports me!
Post 7 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 21:22
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In order of my preferences:

Furman
Furman
Furman
Furman
Furman
Post 8 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 22:04
anyhomeneeds
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That's what I thought, but you sounded like a rookie there for a moment.

Since you are in Atlanta, there is a big AVxD branch that would have a better selection of Panamax.
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Post 9 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 23:17
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On December 20, 2010 at 21:22, cowboy said...
In order of my preferences:

Furman
Furman
Furman
Furman
Furman

+2!!

And also ultralink for lower budget...
Post 10 made on Monday December 20, 2010 at 23:31
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Check out the Blue Bolt feature with either Panamax or Furman.
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 11 made on Tuesday December 21, 2010 at 00:10
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On December 20, 2010 at 21:22, cowboy said...
In order of my preferences:

Furman
Furman
Furman
Furman
Furman

Exactly the preferences I have and Blue Bolt is the sh*t.
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Post 12 made on Tuesday December 21, 2010 at 05:46
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On December 20, 2010 at 20:20, william david design said...
Working on a client's house after 3 other installers botched it. I told her the $4.99 surge protector wouldn't cut it and that she needed to invest between $300.00 and $1500.00 for surge/power conditioner

Meanwhile, informed consumers learn from engineers who have been doing this stuff for decades. View manufacturer specs for that $100 protector or the Furman devices selling for more. Their specs are similar to the $4.99 protector.

Take a $3 power strip. Add some ten cent protector parts. It sells for $7 in the grocery store. Or $150 from Monster Cable.

Monster has a long history of identifying scams. Then selling equivalent products for even higher prices. Did you know speaker wire has polarity? Monster even sold speaker wire marked for the speaker and amp ends. Claimed that sound was perverted if that wire was reversed. And then sold that $7 speaker wire for $70.

Monster is simply doing same with surge protectors. A responsible poster who listed those manufacturers also listed manufacturer spec numbers that claim that protection. No specs provided for one simple reason. Those manufacturers do not claim protection from typically destructive surges.

Informed homeowners install the superior protection that costs about $1 per protected appliance. Based in science well proven even 100 years ago. A solution used everywhere that damage cannot happen. And makes even direct lightning strikes irrelevant. Also obvious once one selects a protector using engineering concepts. Which means spec numbers. And which means ignoring recommendation that do not also provide the reasons why - and spec numbers.

How does that magic box rated at hundreds of joules absorb surges that are hundred of thousands of joules? Damning numbers.
Post 13 made on Tuesday December 21, 2010 at 06:54
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Oh man, Westom. What, did you set up a google alert for this?

This thread will get ugly.

Quick, someone say a good ground is unimportant, just to taunt him.

Which UPS company do you work for Westom?

Last edited by Neurorad on December 21, 2010 07:06.
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Post 14 made on Tuesday December 21, 2010 at 07:03
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But honestly, Westom has a valid point.

At what point does 'selling an image' become scammer?

Westom, you're overlooking the fact that power conditioners can serve a purpose, and many of these installs have whole-house surge protection (or at least some of them).

Last edited by Neurorad on December 21, 2010 07:11.
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Post 15 made on Tuesday December 21, 2010 at 07:17
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And, a UPS may be invaluable to avoid system resets with minor fluctuations in power. And the Blue Bolt technology adds functionality too.

Westom please state some of your credentials up front, rather than just stating facts. It will benefit the discussion.
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