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Post 31 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 08:31
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On 04/23/03 12:46, fullflava said...
I didn't think that it was coaxial, given my limited knowledge of coaxial(for tv cable). They don't look the same, so I thought that it was different.

Well it is the same you are just not used to hearing them refered to this way. Coxial is actually just an rca cable(standard red and whites from walmart) Coax for television just has better shielding and end compatible for tv. The coax digital on the back of your Dvd player should look like a standard RCA and is probably orange or black in color. This should be the only cable except video that you need to run to your receiver. Once it is all said and done make sure you go into the receiver and program the didigtal inputs if necessary and also go into DVD on screen and turn on Dolby digital and DTS(if your receiver supports both) MAny many many times in trouble shooting a customer installed system they have went the distance learning how to cable everything themselves and then skip the programming which usually makes everything work correctly and in unisom. The programming is usually fairly simple and covered in the manual. Any ways good luck and if you need any other help once your up and running make sure and post. Good luck
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
OP | Post 32 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 12:26
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Do you know where I can get a manual for JVC cd players and receivers? That would be awesome. I can only seem to find ones that cost $25. Thanks
Post 33 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 12:36
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fullflava - just checking, but I counted 3 satellite speakers at the front of the room (near TV) and two passive subwoofers (ie no internal amp & therefore don't need a power point) at the back near the couch.

You're not by any chance running the subwoofers from the rear speaker outputs of the receiver are you??

If so this would explain why you are getting bass in 5 channel stereo mode (equal signal to fronts and rears) and bugger all in Dolby (only surround effects sent to rears).

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This message was edited by Aussie AV on 04/24/03 12:42.
Post 34 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 14:24
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Aussie, thats what it sounds like to me...
Post 35 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 14:25
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Aussie, thats what it sounds like to me...

Full, switch your mains with your surrounds and you should be set.

then set the mains to large and rears to small..

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OP | Post 36 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 15:01
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Yes, I'm running the subwoofers from the "rear" output through 18 ga. speaker wire. So, I don't think I got ya there. Mains, are you referring to the actual wires? That would make sense because I have 10, count 'em, 10 DVD audio RCA outputs that are not being used. I described them in an earlier thread:

Front R+L(red, white)
Center Subwoofer(2, both black, doesn't say right or left)
Rear R+L(red, white)
Subwoofer(1, black)

That's how it's labeled. I don't know... I can't believe this has been that much of a task. I thought I would have this mo-fo up and boomin', even though it sounds great now, I need to hear what everyone is talking about, then make a more educated decision. Anyhoo, you guys are the kewlest.
Post 37 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 15:32
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dont worry dawg we will have you up and going soon enough.

The mains are the fronts..

put the big speakers with the subs next to your TV and run the front L and R to them.
Then run the Rear L and R to the two satellites you have and put them right next to or behind your couch.
Center goes to center speaker on your TV.

ignore sub.

Post 38 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 18:42
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Do you have rear speakers?
CB1
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
Post 39 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 22:22
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Okay, Full, answer a few questions directly, and we'll get this done:

1) What speaker terminals are on the receiver?
i.e., front-left, front-right, center, rear-left, right-left. etc.

2) What terminals are on the subs?
i.e., line level (RCA jacks): left-in, right-in;
speaker-level: left-in, right-in, left-out, right-out, etc.

3) How many of what type of speaker do you have?
i.e., 1 center, 4 satellites, 2 subwoofers, etc.

4) The jacks marked, to quote you:

Front R+L(red, white)
Center Subwoofer(2, both black, doesn't say right or left)
Rear R+L(red, white)
Subwoofer(1, black)


Are they on the DVD player (outputs), or are they on the receiver, and are they inputs or outputs?

5) Just to ask again, the subs do or do not have power cords?

Larry
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Post 40 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 22:35
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fullflava - Larry's right, the more fully you can answer his questions, the better we can help you.

One additional question that might help. Reading between the lines, I'm getting the impression that the 15" sub boxes are not normal "Home Audio", but rather "Car Audio" units. If so please let us know, if not make and model again might be helpful to us.
OP | Post 41 made on Thursday April 24, 2003 at 22:46
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1. The jacks on the receiver are as I described.
2. The only thing on the subs is L+R in for speaker wire.
3. 2 15" subs each with a 5" & 3.25" mids in cabinet, 2 square satellites and one rectangular(can't tell what they are other than JVC).
4.Already answered.
5. If you mean actual DC power supply's, no.

Hope this helps.
I really think the speaker cabinets are factory. Has a professional look. I am a 5 year custom cabinet builder, so I kinda actually do know what I'm talkin' about for once, we just don't have cool sites like this. None of my components are for cars. I might be poor, but I ain't ghetto. Also, my subs should be up front? You guys are just yuckin' it up over my silly ass aren't ya? Anyhoo-duly-doo, thanks again.

This message was edited by fullflava on 04/24/03 22:55.
Post 42 made on Friday April 25, 2003 at 00:24
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Okay, now we have somewhere to start; in this case, at the "end".

You don't really have "subs"; you have 3-way main speakers, a pair of rears, and a center. Hook them up like this:

The rectangular speaker is the center (should be obvious): hook up accordingly, and place on (or under) your TV. (keep constant polarity for all speakers: receiver red (+) to speaker red (+))

The satellites are the rears: hook them up like any pair of speakers to the rear-speaker terminals on the receiver, and set them to the sides of, and slightly behind, your seating.

The big boxes are the mains, to the front L & R speaker terminals on the receiver, and flank the TV, each one 1 to 3 feet away from it, but not as far as the room corners.

Now, you have to find a menu in the receiver that is either called 'bass management' or 'speaker setup' where, because your bass-capable speakers are the mains, you want to set the 'sub' output to 'no sub' or 'off'.

This will redirect the DVD player's LFE signal to the mains. Also, set the 'main' speakers to 'large', so the L & R bass will stay there. You should set the 'center' speaker and 'surround' speakers to 'small', so their bass will also be redirected to the mains.

Now, what you will have is all of the 5 channels' lows reproduced by the only speakers that can handle it; the mains with the 15" drivers, and the .1 LFE channel's bass added to the mains, too.

If you ever get a dedicated sub, you would simply reset the 'sub' out to 'on', but with twin 15" speakers, you probably won't need one for a while. Plus, there are advantages to stereo bass, even though the popular beliefsays otherwise.

Next, you said that you already told us where the multi-channel RCA jacks are, so I'll just say that you don't need to hook anything up to them; they're for DVD-A or SACD or some future surround decoding scheme.

To reiterate on the DVD player hookup:
Audio: RCA cable in digital jack to receiver's digital jack. That one cable should carry all audio to the surround decoder, even plain stereo CD.

Video: Since the receiver doesn't handle S-video, best picture says to run S-video from the DVD player to the TV's S-video in, and an RCA cable from the receiver's 'TV' or 'monitor' jack to the other TV input, and use the TV to switch video.

Convenience would say to use the RCA video (yellow) from the DVD player to the receiver, and another from the receiver to the TV for everything, and do all of the video switching in the receiver.

You might want to try it both ways (but not at the same time) and see if the S-video provides a noticeable difference in picture quality; if not drpo the S-video and use only regular video (called 'composite') through the yellow jacks.

The VCR should be no problem to hook up using two sets of red/white/yellow cables; receiver 'rec out' to VCR's 'rec in', and VCR's 'play out' to receiver's 'play in', color for color.

The PS-2 will hook up basically like a VCR that doesn't record, red/white/yellow, and the CD changer will hook up like a cassette deck that doesn't record, red/white. Pretty straightforward.

With the exception of phono inputs (if you have them), all of the other inputs use the same voltage levels, so the source device doesn't have to match the input's name. It's more so it's easy to remember which input selects which device.

As long as you already have set the DVD player's and the receiver's digital options properly, you should be enjoying a new experience in about 15 minutes. You might want to print out these instructions, by the way.

That should be it. I think I covered everything. Please let us know if you have any trouble, and how it sounds if you get it right.

Larry
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Post 43 made on Friday April 25, 2003 at 01:18
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Good job Larry!

CB1
why have a nice system if you cant operate it, program the remote the right way the FIRST time!
Post 44 made on Friday April 25, 2003 at 01:44
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Don't clap, just throw money!
Post 45 made on Friday April 25, 2003 at 11:20
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Boy, you guys are good. And patient. And patient. And patient. Great job. I stumbled on this thread and needing to kill a morning, I read it through completely. Very interesting and informative. Kudos to all.
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