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Post 31 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 01:36
BluPhenix
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Do you mean the 1 way TCP communication module gopronto? Bacause I can't find anything else.
Post 32 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 03:03
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On September 8, 2010 at 13:50, alpha said...
Save whole buttons to the building blocks section.

If you by this mean that you should be able to drag something down to an appropriate graphic library I fully agree with you. That would make it a whole lot easier to share graphics among colluagues.
Post 33 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 03:33
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I would like to have a truly global scope.  Perhaps it is a clash of programming styles, but at least half of my code is spent working around scope limits.

Unless there is a very large time penalty for a larger name space, I think that programs could execute faster if common routines were "compiled" once, rather than each time an activity is entered.

Last edited by buzz on October 7, 2010 04:01.
Post 34 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 03:36
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On October 7, 2010 at 01:36, BluPhenix said...
Do you mean the 1 way TCP communication module gopronto? Bacause I can't find anything else.

yes that was the module i was on about :)
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Post 35 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 05:02
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In three month is chrismas and I drop also four wishes, that may facilitate especially standard software development:

1) Pronto is getting more and more involved in building automation where timers and the installed real time clock are necessary for a lot of functionalities. Many of our new installations are using more than one Pronto. I cannot ask my customers to change and adjust the clock for e.g. summer / winter time on every Pronto. I would like a function to adjust the real time clock by script.

2) It would be great to get access to the activity script of ready build in Activities (like media center...) This is needed especially to rewind timers when changing to those activities.

3) In addition to the mentioned tree of the widgets that are placed by the user on a page, I would need to get a list of the tag names of panels, buttons and pages by script. This would allow to define functions in the activity by standard software using the onPress, onHold, onMove... functions.

4) Standard software is most likely done in several languages. Would be nice to read the chosen system language to switch automatically to the correct parameters - and (one step further) to choose the system language by script (hotel applications)

Thank you prontoteam
Post 36 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 06:23
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1) Pronto Edit Professional has an option Day Light Saving Time: On Off under Setting2. I never looked it it worked, but it is there.

2) Does anyone even use those built-in's? I know I would not, they clash too much with my UI in terms of design. I would not be surprised if a user felt uneasy with such dramatic UI changes.

4) A good point. Or better one, to be able to define custom language files or words for system texts. I am from Slovenia and this language is not supported on the pronto. So my user interface is in my language, while the system settings and alerts (battery) are in english. Some users don't really like it.

But I can't really see why would you like for hotel guests to be able to browse through the system settings?

On October 7, 2010 at 03:03, nimnul said...
If you by this mean that you should be able to drag something down to an appropriate graphic library I fully agree with you. That would make it a whole lot easier to share graphics among colluagues.

At least you can do this by hand :)
Post 37 made on Thursday October 7, 2010 at 07:50
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On October 7, 2010 at 06:23, BluPhenix said...

1) Pronto Edit Professional has an option Day Light Saving Time: On Off under Setting2. I never looked it it worked, but it is there.

Yes, you'are right. I just tested it and it is working fine. (chrismas is getting closer - I'm happy with this solution).

2) Does anyone even use those built-in's? I know I would not, they clash too much with my UI in terms of design. I would not be surprised if a user felt uneasy with such dramatic UI changes.

This is something that I cannot decide for my customers (that are also installers). I cannot force them that they are not allowed to use these bulit in's when they want to use timers.
4) A good point. Or better one, to be able to define custom language files or words for system texts. I am from Slovenia and this language is not supported on the pronto. So my user interface is in my language, while the system settings and alerts (battery) are in english. Some users don't really like it.

I fully agree! Text files are even better.

But I can't really see why would you like for hotel guests to be able to browse through the system settings?

Not the system setting are of interest. Day names are changing too when changing the language. And as I stated above, more important than changing the system language is to read it out.
Post 38 made on Saturday October 9, 2010 at 11:31
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On September 29, 2010 at 03:26, BluPhenix said...
A tree of the widgets present on a page, the activity/page tree could be extended with the widgets.

I just found out that this has already been implemented! In the Debugger. The debugger has also normal code display with coloring. If you would be able to save in the debugger it could be a nice little code editor. LOL. The irony.
Post 39 made on Saturday October 9, 2010 at 15:45
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FYI, Fellas, the Pronto has no real-time clock hardware.
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Post 40 made on Sunday October 10, 2010 at 08:51
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PLEASE, a flag we can set/clear based on events would be dramatically better. I would like to base page flips, zones, even themes on flags.

WOULD BE A HUGE ASSET!
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Post 41 made on Monday October 11, 2010 at 17:51
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Ability to set different options for hard buttons per page per device (activity).

Eg. If have a device (activity) defined for my tv - I want the hard button for Home on the first page take me to home screen, but on other pages for the tv device take me to the starting page. This would mean not having to script such actions.

One of the things I do at present - when on the home page, if I press power, it takes me to a special power off page. Any page in Home section that is not the power page takes me to the special power page. If I'm on the special power page - power button runs a defined power off button. It would be greta not having to write script for this.
Post 42 made on Monday October 11, 2010 at 19:09
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On October 11, 2010 at 17:51, iam-940 said...
Ability to set different options for hard buttons per page per device (activity).

Eg. If have a device (activity) defined for my tv - I want the hard button for Home on the first page take me to home screen, but on other pages for the tv device take me to the starting page. This would mean not having to script such actions.

If you are not using Page+/-, there is no reason you cannot break a single activity into multiple activities and have firm keys different on a per page bases. For example, if you have tabs on the screen for Keypad, Surround, Transport, etc, you can easily separate those pages across multiple activities as you are already "jumping" between those different pages without using Page+/-. This is likely the main reason that this functionality has never been added, although, it has indeed been requested by myself and others during beta tests.

One of the things I do at present - when on the home page, if I press power, it takes me to a special power off page. Any page in Home section that is not the power page takes me to the special power page. If I'm on the special power page - power button runs a defined power off button. It would be greta not having to write script for this.

Why not put your special power page in a separate "System Power" activity? Pressing 'Power' from any activity other than this one will do a Jump to this page? Does not require any script and should work just fine.
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Post 43 made on Wednesday October 13, 2010 at 20:21
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Lyndel,

A big thanks to you. Such an obvious solution and classic example of overcomplicating a simple thing. I've re-done my system power section and may well do some of my confirmation pages the same way. Part of it is probably old pronto mindset of reducing jumps between devices/activities that could be slow, but is practically instant on the 9xxx series.
Post 44 made on Thursday October 14, 2010 at 02:21
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iam-940,

Yes, those jumps between devices/activities were slower on the 7X00 series especially with Animation Mode turned on. I see similar issues on the 9X00 series with Animation Mode. It is for that exact reason why I do not use Animation Mode for any of my remotes.
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Post 45 made on Thursday October 14, 2010 at 05:55
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On October 14, 2010 at 02:21, Lyndel McGee said...
iam-940,

Yes, those jumps between devices/activities were slower on the 7X00 series especially with Animation Mode turned on. I see similar issues on the 9X00 series with Animation Mode. It is for that exact reason why I do not use Animation Mode for any of my remotes.

When I first got my 9400 I had a look at the default config. It was pretty with the moving progress bars and so on, but it was also annoying as it seemed to take too long. I want things to happen quickly on screen. I started form scratch anyway with 2 state (pressed/unpressed) buttons and it's working well. My interface is a bit visually rough though it serves my purpose. I'm thinking of ways to improve it though - part of the fun of the Pronto I think in that you can play with interface and functionality so easily.
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