Hello,

i have some weird problems with both IR code and Learned data with my new MX-850.

1)
First off i got a Samsung DCB-H360R HD decoder. I have made a new device and learned all the remote (00286A) buttons to both hard buttons and LED buttons.
When i learn the buttons it apparently goes ok (Learning: GOOD!), but when i press the button it doesnt work, and the "send" icon doesnt light up on the top-right part of the MX-850 display as it does with other remotes. What could cause that?

2)
Another problem i got is that a learned button results in different behaviour on my Marantz SR4400 receiver: First i tried with the IR code for "DVD" but noticed that the amp switched to an analog signal and not DIG-1 as it should. If i use the Marantz remote (RC5400SR) it works fine. I then learned the button to MX-850 but still the same: the learned command somehow differ from the original and it switches to the analog rather than digital channel! What could cause this behaviour?

3)
I would like to see the HEX values for my learned codes and tried loading the MXF file into Universal Browser, selected HEX editor and clicked one of the learned buttons. This does not work however. If i do the same with a CCF file it works fine. Howcome the hex value is only showed for CCF values?

thx
AndersR

1) Does this happen with ALL learned codes from this remote, or only some? Also, try some of these tricks: [Link: remotecentral.com]

2) Since Marantz uses RC5/6 codes I would strongly recommend basing your layout on one of the preprogrammed codesets, since the MX-850 will not learn toggle bit codes. Strictly speaking Marantz receivers do not *require* toggle bits for correct operation, but I notice they perform better with them. Second, are you certain you have the receiver configured correctly. At least on the models I've owned (SR-18EX, SR9600) you can configure each input to "auto" or "digital", and then when set to "digital" the only way you get to "analog" is by pushing the A/D button. Marantz receivers only have one code per input, and no direct access to the analog/digital portions of each input, so your learned code should not be affecting this.

3) The hex window is *strictly* for inputting Pronto hex codes into your configuration. You cannot use it for anything else.

None of the commands i try to learn the MX-850 result in any activity on the IR activity icon in the top right of the display. Its really weird since the learing seems to go fine. Both remotes have new batteries and i tried learning it in pitch black room also.

I can only think of one thing that could cause no IR activity: that no IR signal was recorded and hence transmitted when button is pressed.


The reason i had to learn the button is, that the DVD dont seem to be on the IR database (493) as a button -weird since all the rest of the buttons are there.

The learned DVD button click also result in no IR activity.

I now tested more, and can say that NONE of the buttons i have learned from 6 different remotes seems to work!!

I take both remotes under the table in a room with no lights on (only monitor) so that it is real dark. I place the remote 3 cm from the IR end of the MX-850 remote, wait for the ready signal and the response "Good" comes back. Afterwards i save the button.

Its really weird! Has anyone tried this before?

Other learned buttons that i import works fine, bu


Too bad! I had hoped to be able to see what was learned on the Samsung, since there is no IR activity when i use the learned buttons...

AndersR

Just a thought, but have you checked the "RF Control" section of the "Program" pulldown to make sure that all devices are set to "IR", not "RF"?

As an aside, I haven't had any problems learning Marantz receiver commands in the past. I haven't done a 4400, but the 7000 and 8000 series have been no problem. You might also try one of the other Marantz codes that has the DVD command in it (ie: 726).

Mike
www.SurfRemoteControl.com

Since i have no RF station i started up by setting all device signals up to IR so they are like this

Device Signal Receiver Flashers
AMP IR Default All
etc

Receivers:
Name Receiver ID IR Blaster
Default ID 0 Off

AndersR

If nothing's working, you may have a faulty IR transmitter. You could always try standalone learning (push MAIN and ENT at the same time and hold down for about 10 seconds, then press LEARN, the device and the button you wish to learn to), but I'm not too hopeful that it will work.

Mike

This is in response to 1 & 2.

If you have different learned and IR data on the same button, this could be causing issues. You might want to try deleting the entire button (learned, macro, IR, button) and doing a fresh learn from the original remote. I'm by no means an expert, but I've learned quite a bit by troubleshooting. ;) Heck, it would only take a minuite to try it.

Marcus:
i tried that already: created a new device, added a blank button and learned it. No dice :-s

The unit is brand spanking new and sent all the way to europe :-((

All non-learned codes work fine, so IR transmitter itself seems to work, but just not the learning gizmo :-(

Have anyone heard about faulty IR learning in MX-850 before?

WOW mike thanx! that actually worked. Its far from optimal but ofcourse it can be useful for those few commands i cant find here!

How can this be? That the learning works the manual way (like i did on my MX-500) but not on the software?

Anders

Sorry. I thought you said nothing was working.


With some components, but not everything. Try the standalone learning I mentioned.

The thread is a little confusing, but I gather that the learning routine didn't work while connected to the computer but did work when using the remote alone. If that's the case, then the exact same thing happened to me with my MX-850. I just uploaded the learned commands from the remote once I taught them using the remote. Odd. Sounds like a software bug but who knows.

Jon