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Topic: | Displaying video from URC Camera on CCP Remote This thread has 13 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Sunday November 17, 2013 at 17:04 |
remotivate Long Time Member |
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I have always noticed that CCP has an option for "URC Camera" under the Tools menu (right next to the "Lutron XML" tool). Does anyone have any experience using this feature for any of URC's various video cameras? And if so, which URC remotes were utilized to display the video stream, maybe the MX-6000 or MX-5000??
Thanks for the help.
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Post 2 made on Monday November 18, 2013 at 12:04 |
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It's designed for the Total Control product line, not Complete Control. You probably can do standard IP cameras on the Wi-Fi enabled Complete Control remotes, but I've never tried it.
Damon
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday November 18, 2013 at 19:12 |
remotivate Long Time Member |
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Yeah, except it's right there in CCP software, so no, it's NOT just for Total Control. The question is if I were to buy a URC IP Camera, would it work to display on my MX-5000 or MX-6000 or iPad? Again, why would the option show up under Tools in the CCP program if it were not meant to work in some way shape or form with a CC remote? Just looking to hear from someone who knows or has done it themselves. Thanks.
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Post 4 made on Tuesday November 26, 2013 at 14:05 |
ALK3997 Long Time Member |
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On November 18, 2013 at 19:12, remotivate said...
Yeah, except it's right there in CCP software, so no, it's NOT just for Total Control. The question is if I were to buy a URC IP Camera, would it work to display on my MX-5000 or MX-6000 or iPad? Again, why would the option show up under Tools in the CCP program if it were not meant to work in some way shape or form with a CC remote? Just looking to hear from someone who knows or has done it themselves. Thanks. Every few months I see that button in CCP and decide I'm going to create a test program with the MX6000 (or MX5000) to see how it works. Then real programming gets in the way and I never do it. I'm curious too if anyone else has done this with CCP. I wouldn't mind trying a DC1 camera with it if I had a reasonable chance of knowing it would work with the MX6000/MX5000.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday November 26, 2013 at 21:10 |
On November 18, 2013 at 19:12, remotivate said...
Yeah, except it's right there in CCP software, so no, it's NOT just for Total Control. The question is if I were to buy a URC IP Camera, would it work to display on my MX-5000 or MX-6000 or iPad? Again, why would the option show up under Tools in the CCP program if it were not meant to work in some way shape or form with a CC remote? Just looking to hear from someone who knows or has done it themselves. Thanks. I had the same question and was never able to get an answer to that question. The option is def in the CCP software, and no it does not work/find normal IP network cameras. I decided to replace my network IP cameras with URC cameras and that's where the problem came in. The marketing material on the MX-5000 clearly states that it works with URC cameras to view on the remote. The option is there to use in the CCP software, but apparently it doesn't work. My guess is that URC decided to leave out that option and never supported it. I lost my local URC guy, so I called another person here in town and asked him about it. He said he never set up the URC camera with the MX-5000 and would call me back and let me know what I needed. He called back and said that it does not work on the CCP line. I basically told him the same thing you mentioned here. I pointed him to the marketing material on this remote where URC boasts about how this is supported. He said he would call URC and get back to me. He called back again and told me that URC told him that the MX-5000 is not a two-way remote and that's why it won't work. Well, that can't be further from the truth. I use two-modules with this remote and it's clearly marketed as a two-way remote. I don't know if he was just trying to get out of the job because he didn't know how to do it, or if URC actually fed him that mis-information because they didn't want to admit that they left out a pretty major feature of the remote that was marketed to work. If you happen to find out any other info on this, I'd love to hear about it. I gave up on it after a few weeks.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday November 26, 2013 at 21:46 |
To follow up with what I said before, and so people don't have to take the time to find the marketing material I'm referring to, I've attached two screenshots with red arrows that clearly show that URC marketed certain CCP remotes to work with URC cameras. Here's another in the same document:
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Post 7 made on Wednesday November 27, 2013 at 08:58 |
JoeFlabitz Select Member |
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I have used it w/MX-6000 in CCP
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday November 27, 2013 at 14:17 |
remotivate Long Time Member |
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Thank you Joe, as I suspected it will work just fine. I have a MC-70VC on order now and I'll be hooking the live video feed up in CCP with my MX-6000 and KP-4000. Hopefully the audio will come through as well using the earbud connector on the MX-6000, but frankly I don't care if it's just video, that's fine. Of course the MC-70VC has a microphone for audio, the other URC cameras don't as far as I know, so it would be nice to get the audio as well. But not a show-stopper if it's only video. I will try it with my MX-5000 as well, I have the module and have un-commented out the variable in the .vfd file, but I suspect the sizing of the video will not work quite right with the MX-5000. Even though URC showed this working on MX-5000's in several published pieces of literature of theirs, it seems that somewhere along the line they stopped pushing that as an option. It was "reserved" to some extent for the KP-4000 and MX-6000. But I'll try pushing the envelope with the 5000 too.
Thanks to all for the ongoing contributions to this thread. I'll post my updates as soon as I get my hands on that camera. Could take a week or so. Cheers.
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Post 9 made on Saturday November 30, 2013 at 22:35 |
ALK3997 Long Time Member |
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On November 27, 2013 at 08:58, JoeFlabitz said...
I have used it w/MX-6000 in CCP Joe, could you tell me which camera model you used with the MX-6000?
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Post 10 made on Sunday December 1, 2013 at 16:25 |
JoeFlabitz Select Member |
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On November 30, 2013 at 22:35, ALK3997 said...
Joe, could you tell me which camera model you used with the MX-6000? It was their original outdoor dome camera, MC-73 maybe?
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Post 11 made on Sunday December 1, 2013 at 23:32 |
ALK3997 Long Time Member |
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Thank you! That gives me something to look at.
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OP | Post 12 made on Friday December 13, 2013 at 15:25 |
remotivate Long Time Member |
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Okay, just completed the proof of concept here...with much success... I now have a URC MC-70VC indoor IP camera being viewed perfectly on both an MX-6000 and a KP-4000. I can also view the camera from any Internet Explorer browser on my LAN. Doesn't work with Firefox or Safari at all. With IE on a Windows machine (or VM), you get not only nice video but also the audio. I can find no way yet to get the audio input from the camera mic to come across on the MX-6000 or KP-4000. I wouldn't expect it necessarily on the KP-4000, but the MX-6000 has a decent speaker output on the back of it, and also an Earphone connection. I was hoping (always dangerous) that you could hear the audio by plugging in earphones to the earphone jack. That apparently would make too much sense :-) If anyone has any ideas of things to try to get Audio on an actual URC remote that would be great. The video is perfect but I'd rather not rely on a full web browser in order to get the audio. [The use case here is to use this in a nursery where baby sounds are important. Again, web browser would do it, but would require keeping a laptop open at all times in the house for the baby to be "monitored". I'd rather see it done from an actual URC device that is smaller/more portable.] Ideas welcome as always. Thanks.
Last edited by remotivate on December 14, 2013 09:14.
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Post 13 made on Thursday December 26, 2013 at 23:28 |
Did you get a chance to try to get this working on the MX-5000 like it was advertised?
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OP | Post 14 made on Friday December 27, 2013 at 10:29 |
remotivate Long Time Member |
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I have tried the MX-5000 with no success as of yet. I have tried various ipc.vfd files, but they were not made for the MX-5000 screen size obviously, they come from the KP-4000 folder or the MX-6000 folder and they do not work. Not surprised. What I'd like to get my hands on is an ipc.vfd file that was built for the screen size of the MX-5000. I suspect that there is one for the Total Control version of the MX-5000 (the TRC-1280), and I'd love to try it out within the CCP suite if anyone has access to that file and wants to share it. Of course it is a crapshoot as to whether it would work, but I'd love to try it and see, with no expectations of success.
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