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MSC-400, RS232 & Ramp and Repeat Issue?
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Post 31 made on Sunday March 2, 2008 at 14:55
DaveWI
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On March 1, 2008 at 20:57, pilasz said...
Denon CI series - ramp for volume control works ok (MX900
and MSC400). Yamaha RX-V2700 - can't make it work. I guess
there are some compatibility issues, but it's not broken
completly...i guess...

With the Denon, do you get just one volume command issued when you tap the button briefly? The ramp (repeat) works fine here too. It's the one-click scenario that's the issue.
Post 32 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 19:20
DaveWI
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URC acknowledged the issue and said they are working on a fix. The workaround for now is to use the macro window in the remote editor and add a press & hold repeating command.
OP | Post 33 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 21:30
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On March 19, 2008 at 19:20, DaveWI said...
URC acknowledged the issue and said they are working on
a fix. The workaround for now is to use the macro window
in the remote editor and add a press & hold repeating
command.

Thnx Dave....just so I'm clear...the workaround would be to create a press/hold macro (on the handheld) with the MSC400 trigger as the command?

If so....how would you tell the handheld to repeat the command (trigger) if held for longer than 1sec?

If (press time) >=1 Second
Trigger (channel up) ----------> How does it know to repeat this?
else
Trigger (channel up)
Post 34 made on Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 23:05
DaveWI
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On March 19, 2008 at 21:30, ds53652 said...
Thnx Dave....just so I'm clear...the workaround would
be to create a press/hold macro (on the handheld) with
the MSC400 trigger as the command?

If so....how would you tell the handheld to repeat the
command (trigger) if held for longer than 1sec?


If (press time) >=1 Second
Trigger (channel up) ----------> How does it know
to repeat this?
else
Trigger (channel up)

I have created two smart macro versions of my directional RS-232 commands, the alternate version being the ramping one.

E.g.:
*Up
*Up repeat

In the MX-900 editor, I select the 'Up' button and change the macro type from
'Normal' to 'Press-Hold'. I open the universal browser with my msc file, then drag the 'Up' macro trigger to the macro window for the up button in the 'Before' tab, then the 'Up repeat' trigger in the 'After' tab.

Hope this makes sense. I'm not sure what the setup would be in the other editors. The idea here is that you have the remote send different triggers depending on whether the button is tapped or held down.

Of course it's not exactly the same, because if ramping was working as it should, press and hold would send one command, pause a bit, then repeat the command. Here press and hold will not send the first command, it will just start repeating after the press time (which cannot be less than one second). But it does allow for navigation and repeat for directional buttons. I still hope they fix it fast though.
Post 35 made on Monday December 8, 2008 at 14:48
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Does anyone have any updates on the msc-400 repeat issue?
Post 36 made on Friday November 6, 2009 at 12:46
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Old thread I am waking up. I am having the repeat issue with the B&K CT receivers with RS232. Trying to switch over from IR control, and vol ramping jumps 2 DB at a time. More importantly like mute which if repeated twice mutes and unmutes. I have the lateset update for the MSC-400 and hoped that older issues were fixed. Any input or fixes other that press and hold stated above? Sorry if this has been answered but this is the first old thread that relates to my situation.
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Post 37 made on Friday November 6, 2009 at 13:21
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OK, think I got mute to work fine with RS232 and MSC-400. I unchecked (repeat while button is pressed). Still Volume is double executed, 2 db at a time- not that big of a deal but wondering if anyone has fixed the double commands as stated above when the box is checked. There may be other situations I will come across that I am not thinking about right now. Thanks.
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Post 38 made on Monday November 16, 2009 at 01:00
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This has never been fixed - which blows my mind. But what are you gonna do.
Post 39 made on Monday November 16, 2009 at 17:04
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Thank you for confirming that. I have created the push and hold macro for ramping and will deal with the 2 DB increments.......... Thanks for the response!
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Post 40 made on Monday November 16, 2009 at 22:25
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Create two smart macros, one with repeat checked and one without. The one without use trigger when the button is pressed and the repeated command when the button is held. It allows you to go up/down 1 at a time if tapping the button but when holding down it repeats 2 at a time.

Bob
Post 41 made on Tuesday November 17, 2009 at 20:06
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Thanks BobL,
I have already done that but for some reason the unpressed trigger macro still moves 2 at a time. The press macro moves 4 at a time. So it is still double. I can live with this but it is unusual. I have played with the ramp times without further success. Unless the serial string can be altered I don't have any ideas.
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Post 42 made on Thursday August 5, 2010 at 00:27
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is this still an issue with the MSC400?  i've spent 2 hours messing around with these settings....  
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Post 43 made on Thursday August 5, 2010 at 07:22
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Could this be related to another bug where the "Minimum Repeat When Pressed" value is ignored? (regarding sending IR signals)

For example, if I specify "1" for the minimum repeats when pressed, a quick press of the button should only send 1 repeat but it always sends 3 regardless of the value specified.

URC confirmed this as a bug in an e-mail to tech support but I haven't heard anything back...
Post 44 made on Thursday August 5, 2010 at 11:26
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 i don't know, but I spent way too long assuming that I was doing something wrong.  I ended up using the press and hold work around, but this doesnt work for the remotes that arent capable of this feature.  I have three MX450s in this configuration that can't scroll fast though the guide without constantly tapping the arrow keys or page up/down buttons.  not too happy about this....
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Post 45 made on Sunday January 2, 2011 at 12:14
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I'm having the known RS232 ramp issue with an MSC-400 and an MX-900.

I tried the press-hold work around. For some reason the press rs232 trigger is skipped the third time for more than one button, but works fine on the first two times!?! The blue light blinks on the MSC-400 so I know it's getting the third trigger, but the MSC-400 isn't executing it?

This is repeatable on any button. The hold function seems to work fine each time.

Normal button types work fine and without any error.
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