I actually 'lost' a project a couple years ago that was 70 - 80 fixtures along with a nice audio system outside and a little a/v inside. After I gave proposal the homeowner asked me about the 4 letter "V" products and had another estimate from someone who proposed them for the project. I told the homeowner i'm not using them and explained several reasons why. He went with the other proposal using that junk.
Anyone use V***? Says all brass, UL and lifetime warranty. Is it just because they sell direct?