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Remote that looks like a wall switch
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Post 1 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 17:05
daviddoria
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I want to have a lightswitch that control an outlet across the room without having to run a wire. X10 sounded perfect, but they said the only way to do that is to get a transceiver to plug into the outlet across the room and use a remote control (held in your hand). What I want is an actual light switch that I can put in the switch panel as you enter the room. Is there a product like this?

Thanks,

Dave
Post 2 made on Tuesday January 13, 2009 at 09:57
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On January 12, 2009 at 17:05, daviddoria said...
I want to have a lightswitch that control an outlet across
the room without having to run a wire. X10 sounded perfect,
but they said the only way to do that is to get a transceiver
to plug into the outlet across the room and use a remote
control (held in your hand). What I want is an actual
light switch that I can put in the switch panel as you
enter the room. Is there a product like this?

Thanks,

Dave

X10 makes a 3 button wireless slimline switch SS13A, you will also need a TM751 Transceiver, for your outlet you will either need an SR227 which will replace your existing outlet or you could use either an AM466 appliance module or if you are going to control a lamp an LM465 module
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday January 13, 2009 at 10:19
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Sounds great! Do these things break often (ie is it worth getting the warranty?)
Post 4 made on Wednesday January 14, 2009 at 17:35
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On January 13, 2009 at 10:19, daviddoria said...
Sounds great! Do these things break often (ie is it worth
getting the warranty?)

Out of the 12+ years I have been using X10, I have replaced 2 SR227 outlets and one AM 465 modules I might add that I use 7 SR227 outlets and 10 AM465 modules, along with 10 X10 light switches (with no problems)
Post 5 made on Thursday April 23, 2009 at 03:26
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On January 13, 2009 at 10:19, daviddoria said...
Sounds great! Do these things break often (ie is it worth getting the warranty?)

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Post 6 made on Saturday April 25, 2009 at 17:24
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On April 23, 2009 at 03:26, andre11 said...
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Post 7 made on Thursday April 30, 2009 at 23:13
Jim Fouch in Southern California
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Unless they have improved the SR 227 outlet since I last used one, which has been rather a long time, the relay makes a rather loud Click when turned on which some people, including me, might find objectionable.
Cheers, Jim.
Post 8 made on Sunday May 3, 2009 at 19:49
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It still does make a loud click
Post 9 made on Wednesday May 6, 2009 at 01:18
Jim Fouch in Southern California
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On May 3, 2009 at 19:49, rehaz1 said...
It still does make a loud click

Sounds like another example of X-10's value engineering. They don't do much engineering and the customer does not get much value.

I am far from an EE, but there are certainly ways to switch power without using a relay that can be heard in the next room.
Cheers, Jim.
Post 10 made on Saturday July 18, 2009 at 00:59
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On May 6, 2009 at 01:18, Jim Fouch in Southern California said...
Sounds like another example of X-10's value engineering. They don't do much engineering and the customer does not get much value.

I am far from an EE, but there are certainly ways to switch power without using a relay that can be heard in the next room.

X-10 devices and the PC switch mode power supply
are neck-and-neck for the award in cost reduction
to the point of pain while apparently completing UL testing
without generating smoke.

But to be fair the relay-based modules were designed
to function with a mechanically latching relay such that
the power state of the load persists across module
power loss. A conventional latching relay with equivalent
current carrying capacity would likely itself exceed the
cost of an X-10 module.

While non-volatile storage is pretty common these days
in a ~$1 uC it wasn't back when X-10 was initially
developed. Even if that wasn't an issue you wouldn't
really want a 50-cent, 60Hz energized relay to be
buzzing in the wall while the load was being powered.
Also an energy and heat savings is realized by use of
a latching mechanism. The click upon latch transitions
can be annoying but it still seems to be a reasonable
compromise given the set of design constraints.
Post 11 made on Friday August 14, 2009 at 03:24
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By far and away the best solution is the Lutron Lighting made for URC. These unique lighing products (lamp switches and dimmers) give the use the ability to simply replace the current light/dimmer switch with one from URC and control it wirelessly with any of the URC compatable RF remotes.

Scenes, discrete codes, and decorative covers in many colors round out the line. I have sold these to many of my customers and they are extremely happy. Yes, they are more expensive than X-10 or Levition products, but you get what you pay for in the reliability, quality and flexibility department. Anyone who has any questions feel free to send me an email.

Vincent


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