Has there been a comparision of the 2 remotes written up anywhere?

there are some posts on AVS about the Nevo

one poster says it takes the Nevo 5-10 seconds to 'wake up' after putting it down: the poster thought it might need to reestablish the wifi connection to save battery life

if that is the case, it would be unacceptable for me

I think the big difference is metadata. I don't think the T3 is capable of that yet? If you need that capability then the T3 might not be your best bet. I haven't used the Nevo, only played with it. But, I wasn't too impressed. Needs some refining IMHO.

Bob

Excuse my pea brain, but what is metadata?

Metadata would be data retrieved from an external source that can be presented on the control device.

For example: Using the remote, the user selects "XM Radio". Then, after activating the XM source and playing the music channel, the remote would display the currently playing track name and artist. Or the CD cover art....or the radio station that was playing...or...

You need a two-way communication system for this to happen.

Bob/George,

I posted this elsewhere, what systems do handle metadata more easily? I have done this in the AMX world and it is very combersome.


Steve

The Nevo does not have any wake-up issues unless one is using the NevoLink and streaming mp3's. UEI is working on some fixes as we speak. If you do not plan to use the NevoLink, it is one excellent remote. It is metadata ready, with some limitations at this time, meaning UPnP only. Although, at CEDIA we saw it working with the Escient.

That being said, the T3 with all of the goodies (Rp6, RM433, etc) is probably the best remote for more complex installation or where RF is really necessary. No wi-fi on the T3 and I notice RTI is a little fuzzy about when it will be ready. I heard sometime 1st quarter 2006 and the unit would need to be returned to the factory to accomplish this.

Dave

Ok, now for my stupid question.

What is "UPnP" only?

Steve,

For whole house audio the Netstreams Digilinx handles it pretty easily with various devices. Sonos isn't bad for PC stuff but not other equipment. For metadata and theater systems AMX, Crestron, Control4, Elan and the like are the options. A reasonably priced remote solution would be great.

Frank,

UPnP is Universal Plug and Play. A protocol for connecting devices to a network. Unlike Plug nd Play which is supposed to connect devices to a computer. A UPnP only device can only be connected to the network directly and not through other another device. For instance a printer that is UPnP only would be connected to the network through either WiFi, Ethernet, Bluetooth, Phone Modem etc and woud allow itself to be recognized to the whole network and given its own IP address. Where most printers connected through a computer with USB are only available to that user unless the user allows the printer to be "shared" with other users and only when that computer is on and connected.

Hope this helps

Bob

Thanks for the tips

This post was pulled, and I retract, what was previously written about Nevo

There is some confusion about me being and employee of RTI when in fact im a Reseller of RTI products in South Africa.
I do appologise for what was said.
kind Regards
Derek Friend

[Link: remotecentral.com]

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As someone with actual experience with the Nevo, these things simply are not true. In the future, please refrain from making up or embellishing problems about a remote just to promote another...rumors (and confusion) get started that way.

Is this the only way to sell the T3?

I think he ment in regards to controling units that are not in line of sight. Remember that RTI sells to the Custom Installer and the CI installs systems that are in cabinates and racks. And controlled from all sorts of places and often with no line of site.

The NEVO was marketed to CI from a major distributor as CUSTOM INSTALLER ONLY. (See how long that lasted.) Spend a little time with it and you can see it is not the same animal as RTI.

The only way to sell an RTI? Well hell how about being able to use a 12volt trigger? RS232? Trigger codes for stored macros? 100% macro completion as reception is a yes or no and not a partly.

The RTI and NEVO are not ment for the same people. Problem is that they signed an agreement to sell to the same people.

NEVO. Dump the A^#D deal and go to Best Buy. Your market is there. The DIY guy digs this thing and doesn't care that you release it as a work in progress. DIY guys will bug hunt it and come up with solutions. You can send them update after update to tweak things to get it nailed down. Oh wait that is supposed to be done in Beta, right?

Installers want to know its going to work as its our job and not our hobby. We want to deliver a SOLID prodct to clients that will just friggen work for them. We can't invest in something that is going to cause us to have to go back again and again. So we use what works. That is really all there is too it.

Yeah...what Springs said...Take the Nevo elsewhere like CC or Best Buy. I tried to get software to play with to maybe bring the Nevo in as a quick sale for the DIY guys..I have to buy one to get access to software is what I was told. No thanks, will stick with RTI