Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
RTI Control Systems Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Previous page Next page Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Page 1 of 2
Topic:
First encounter with UHF on Dish
This thread has 15 replies. Displaying all posts.
Post 1 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 01:54
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
Does anyone know an easy fix for the Echostar 811, and I presume the 940 secondary using UHF rather than IR? I have not encountered other remotes with UHF and I don't know how RTI handles programming these into the T2+.
Post 2 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 02:00
augsys
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2005
442
The 811 responds fine to the normal Dish IR commands including discrete power. They should be in the database, if not let me know, I'll email them to you.

The 942 also responds to IR on TV1, but not TV2.
http://www.gmillerdesigns.com/ Propose-Design-Program

http://integrationpros.org Where the Pros Go!
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 02:47
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
The 811 I was programming tonight responded to UHF (I presume this is RF) but NOT to IR. The 942...TV1 responded to IR and capture with the IR Pro was easy. I haven't tried TV2. I had planned to use a T1 on TV2.

Perhaps I should say...the 811 responded to its own remote...which was UHF. When I tried to capture the codes...the IR Pro was dead in the water. No response...which means, I guess, that the 811 remote is emitting only RF? I haven't seen 811 codes anywhere and would appreciate if you would email to me...

[email protected]

Any recommendation on how to proceed with the 942, TV2?
Post 4 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 09:03
augsys
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2005
442
Use the codes you captured for the 942.
http://www.gmillerdesigns.com/ Propose-Design-Program

http://integrationpros.org Where the Pros Go!
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 09:15
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
They don't Work! This is what was so confusing. The two remotes look identical. One is for the 942 and the other for the 811. The 811 will not accept any of the 942 codes...because it is UHF only...no IR.

I haven't tried yet, but I would believe the same is true of the 942 TV2.

Other suggestions?
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 11:01
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
In a long and frustrating conversation with Dish tech, they say their new remotes for the 811 send only UHF in the sat mode.

However, you can buy (or find codes for) a remote...the "blue button" remote...that is the older remote, and it will have the 811 funtion with IR rather than UHF.

They don't know the frequency of the UHF signal they send out. They have quick support, but seemingly don't understand powerful remotes like the T2+, Crestron, etc.

They indicated that their "receiver" would teach IR codes...not learn them...but teach them.

Bottom line...

942 TV1 works with IR. TV2...UHF only. This seems to be a problem.

811 now shipped with UHF only for sat box control. It will work with IR code sets.
Post 7 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 16:15
augsys
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2005
442
Cougmeister, I sent you my Dish IR files, the fileset includes all addresses on/off and addresses 1-4. Sorry I don't have the PVR codes.

Here's the deal of Dish, all of thier single tuner boxes respond to IR, they have 10 IR addresses so you can control more than one reciever without doing IR routing. Consult the manual for how to change the addresses.

TV2 on the dual tuner boxes if UHF only, you will not be able to control this tuner with any programable remote. We don't sell the two tuner boxes for this reason.

You can set the 942 into single tuner mode, then you have both standard and high def outputs at the same time. This can be very handy. The 811 also outputs both standard and high def at the same time.
http://www.gmillerdesigns.com/ Propose-Design-Program

http://integrationpros.org Where the Pros Go!
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 17:38
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
Augsys, I received your Dish IR files and will try them this evening.

I think you have hit on the correct issue. This particular 811 is addressed as #3. This would definitely make a difference in recognition knowing the codesets people generate usually would be address #1. I have two 811's for HD in two different areas.

I wanted 4 HD locations, but DISH told me this is not possible...three is the max.

As for the 942, I am using the HD for the third location and am using the SD output to the fourth location (although I wanted HD there as well).

So, I cannot set the 942 into single tuner mode...according to DISH...because I am using the SD output to the fourth location.

Thanks for your help, and I will post results as well as email you after I have tested it.
Post 9 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 17:48
augsys
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2005
442
I've done systems with as many as 6 811's, all run through a Pvid, I don't think the tech you talked to knows what he's talking about.
http://www.gmillerdesigns.com/ Propose-Design-Program

http://integrationpros.org Where the Pros Go!
OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 18:59
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
"she"... I was trying not to be sexist...
OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 22:41
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
Augsys, I tried all of the code sets...without success. I even tried all addresses on and off...no luck either.

Evidently, there must be something in the setup of the 811 that allows for IR to work.

I can see the flashers each time the button is pressed on the T2+...and from there...nothing.

No response to any of the previous code sets I used or any of your four.

Ideas?

If not, I will just learn the IR from the unit by using the IR Pro if necessary.
OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday June 8, 2005 at 23:27
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
Using the IR Pro, I was able to capture a codeset of IR codes that worked.

Great device...without it I literally spent hours and hours trying different codes.

Gary thanks for all the help, and the multiple code sets.

I will try to zip the file and send it up to RemoteCentral or to David. I am not sure quite how to do it yet.

This message was edited by Cougmeister on 06/09/05 00:30 ET.
Post 13 made on Thursday June 9, 2005 at 02:21
idodishez
Select Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2003
2,433
I do quite a bit w dish. email me if you need more help.

As stated, the 811 remote only OUTPUTS in UHF, but the 811 itself will RECIEVE in UHF OR I-RED. So just use an older basic remote to learn codes.

You can add as many recievers to an acct as you want, HD or no. the cust will just have to pay for them as opposed to a promo. Onece the (6) box # is reached, they will get picky. Beyong 6 boxes (not tuners) they may do a site visit to confirm all at one house. I just did a 6 box/9 tuner install last week. Didnt require a site visit. Had a 811/522/522/322/311/301 on one acct for a total of 9 tuners.


Quote:
"So, I cannot set the 942 into single tuner mode...according to DISH...because I am using the SD output to the fourth location"

You can set in single mode, you just have the watch the same thing. The TV2 is SD only. What are you trying to accomplish? 4 HD tuners? the 942 will not be the answer, as TV2 is SD only. Will need another 811 or another 942/921

[email protected]

.
No, I wont install your plasma with an orange extension cord hanging down the wall.

www.customdigitalinc.com
OP | Post 14 made on Thursday June 9, 2005 at 10:13
Cougmeister
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2003
57
Frank,

What I was trying to accomplish was 4 HD locations to replace Voom in 4 locations. Sales at Dish told me I could only have (didn't matter about price) 3 HD, and one SD max. I even asked them why I couldn't have a second sat dish (that I paid for) and more 811's (that I paid for) or another 942 (that I paid for).

Their answer...NO, only three HD locations period...end of discussion.

Amazing how much business a comany like Dish looses because the people that are selling their product don't know what is going on.

What would be great for me, woud be the following,

811,811,942 HD and SD, 942 HD and SD. This would give me 4 Hd locations and 2 SD locations. But they told me it could not be done...regardless of the cost.

Please advise.
Post 15 made on Thursday June 9, 2005 at 22:59
jayson
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2004
407
You can get one more 942. Cx will just have to pay full price for it. I have just finished a job with 4 942s.
Page 1 of 2


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse