I've got some stigma about using RTI without a processor.  No real reason, but now I've come across a few jobs where just a T1-B or possibly a T2-B would be perfect, but the handheld alone is stretching the budget.  We typically offer URC as our entry level but I really dislike using 2 different lines for this.

How often do you do a standalone line-of-sight remote job with RTI?

Did it once, only once... Won't do it twice...

I have done a couple hundred systems by now...

They work great(T2B) so long as you have products with discrete on/offs, few if any tv input changes. For those that do not, I created a help program similar to harmony (hate them). But it works well . I still mostly use processors.

I Do quite often for smaller systems.

As previously said; All discretes and no flags.

I prefer selling that to any Harmony...

I've done it a few times and had no problems. I've also install K2's and K3's in models (homes) without processors controlling B&K. Powered them off the B&K unit.

I can count on one hand how many tmes we've done it. All have worked fine, I setup a T1 (standalone) for my Mom and it works great. Like someone else said, ALL discretes and NO flags.

I have done it surprisingly alot over the years - especially for people who like a certain remote but have their equipment in plain sight.

It always works perfectly. However, my batting average is not quite so high when a processsor is involved :)

I havent done it will handhelds but I bet it would work well in a single room system with quick macros like when using the new Denon with input on.

I have done it with in walls though.

Today I've got a house with a Samsung LCD, Samsung Blu-Ray, DirecTV H21, and Onkyo 2-channel receiver.  All is sitting on glass shelves under the TV with a couch about 12 feet back.  Simple and discretes for everything.  That was the main reason I started thinking about doing a standalone system. 

Right now they have the TV remote that has the Blu-Ray buttons on it but they won't work it, plus the Blu-Ray remote, plus the DirecTV remote that won't turn the Onkyo off (but will turn it on), and the Onkyo remote.

I need to get a T1-B in my hands... I've avoided it because if you happen to end up with a TOAD then you're pretty much screwed.  I suppose I just need to preface the sale with the importance of discretes and how it can save you some money by being able to use a less expensive remote.

We haven't. I feel that the remote/processor option makes the most sense for reliability. Besides with just the remote what is the advantage RTI has over anything else?

One thing I failed to consider think about...

All the systems I've used standalone have had a TV that had VERY fast input changes or all the video switching was being handled through an AVR.

It seems like all the newer flat panels take FOREVER to go through their turn-on process, so input changes take WAY longer than they used to. If the customer has to keep the remote pointed at the TV for more than a few seconds, you need a processor.

never.

Well that's not quite true, I have walked into a Best Buy with a T3 to test discrete commands on new TV display models.

Out of the hundreds of RTI installs we have done over the past several years we have probably done this a total of 3 or 4 times. Not to beat a dead horse but discretes are a must as others have stated as well as having a good understanding of how the equipment "sequences". What I mean by that is how quick the TV changes inputs, locks onto HDMI etc.

Counted 61 that are stand alone, mainly T1's, use flags on all of them. I explain to the clients that the remote has to be pointed at the equipment until the 'green light' goes out. Very few problems over the years.

One client is a lovely lady in her eighties, 2 source buttons - TV and DVD, she loves it! Another one was in a theatre, again two buttons - TV and Movie (DVD), took less than 20 minutes to program and test.

Off course I have a lot of projects where there is a processor, which is my preference. It's a budget thing, if they're not interested/can't afford a processor, why miss a sale by not offering a stand alone remote.

Obviously a processor is best (make sure to look at the package deals).

As far as RTI vs URC with base station, if the equipment is in direct site, I'd take the RTI every day, simply b/c you can program the control so much better than a sub $400 URC.

Everybody says no fags, but at least have flags if you need them, plus easy to make toggles if necessary. We sale Denon and one thing that makes them very sweet is the 3 user mode macro buttons. Now with the input on function, you can have 3 single push discrete buttons that you can customize.

For example, have user mode 1 = Input TV/CBL, Sound mound=Dolby/PLII Cinema.

Either way, if you have discretes I wouldn't hesitate.