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First T3 project
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Post 1 made on Friday March 10, 2006 at 11:58
Tom Ciaramitaro
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I'm going shoulder deep on this first T3 I'm doing. What a gorgeous remote, though. I took the plunge and picked one up at my distributor and showed it to a client on the way home..."I'll take it!" Two more clients on the line for T3s now.

It's 3 TVs on one wall with 3 Comcast boxes integrated to a Denon 5803 in 7.1. Using a Key Digital 8X3 on your excellent recommendations...it's a real dandy.

Because of the separated location for two racks of equipment, the RP6 resides between them and behind the center TV. It's not inaccessible, but I will lay down when I go to connect the USB connector to it.

Can I do the majority of the programming in standalone mode, debug most of it at IR level, then add the RP6 device near the end? Does this work out pretty seamlessly? I will have to keep a couple standalone commands, but not worried there.

It's a fun programming exercise, swapping one of the smaller screens to the larger when the sports action calls for it...swapping back, now which box is feeding which plasma?

I may ask you to look over my program for some advice when I am near complete.

Thanks for all your support. Great bunch.
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Post 2 made on Friday March 10, 2006 at 15:49
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You could probably do the Stand alone-to-RF swap without to much problem... but I could see how it could get a bit confusing.

What I would do: Buy an adequate length USB cable, plug it into your hidden RP-6 and run it out to where you can get to it easily. Leave it coiled up in the rack for future visits. As long as the USB cable isn't plugged in at the Laptop end, it won't matter. Make sure you take note of which ports your using for each device before you bury the RP6.
Post 3 made on Friday March 10, 2006 at 16:02
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Only issue will be the channel macros. You can rout on the RP-6 but when you do icons for channels... well they are fixing this with the next software they tell me. This and maybe 2 other issues are all that stands between me and full time RTI.
Post 4 made on Friday March 10, 2006 at 21:24
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It can be done with the channel macroes... it just has to be done from with in the macro... on each separate command. Its a major PITA... but it works.
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday March 11, 2006 at 02:00
Tom Ciaramitaro
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Oops! Are you saying the channel macros with logos are bad? I've already showed the client all the pages of logos!

What's the current workaround and the upcoming fix?
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Post 6 made on Saturday March 11, 2006 at 05:58
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not bad justs take a while to set up but you only have to do it once and you can keep using it again in different jobs as long as the channel its on dose not move
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Post 7 made on Saturday March 11, 2006 at 07:24
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I recommend controlling the Key 8x3 switch via RS232: it is easy and faster especially when you have macros doing other things at the same time

you also have the option of switching audio through the Key switch instead of the receiver
Post 8 made on Saturday March 11, 2006 at 10:21
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On March 10, 2006 at 16:02, Springs said...
Only issue will be the channel macros. You can
rout on the RP-6 but when you do icons for channels...

I dont understand. What is the isssue with using icons for channel macros? Im in the midst of doing that now. Is there a drawback for using icons?
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Post 9 made on Saturday March 11, 2006 at 10:23
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On March 10, 2006 at 11:58, Tom Ciaramitaro said...
It's a fun programming exercise, swapping one
of the smaller screens to the larger when the
sports action calls for it...swapping back, now
which box is feeding which plasma?

Quote: "when the
sports action calls for it.

Im assuming this is a client initiated command and you didnt find some magical way to use flags if a touchdown is scrored?:)
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OP | Post 10 made on Saturday March 11, 2006 at 11:37
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I'm anticipating it to be flag based, not a flag on the play, 10 yard penalty however. Flags will be needed so I can keep track of which cable box is currently feeding which display for properly handling swaps. I plan to have a "restore to default" type button if things should get out of sync.

Do you T3 programmers regularly use flags? If so, what are some tips on what to do or not to do? In training they reminded us that flags are device only and not global. With no names for flags ('til next month) it may be tricky keeping them straight.
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Post 11 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 00:44
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make sure you have latest firmware for T3... the first firmware did not properly support flags on the Remote. (worked on T2+ perfectly fine though).

Just in case you weren't aware.
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Post 12 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 07:54
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I guess that was pretty vague. The RP-6 allows for output to specific ports. Issue is it has to be done per commnad. So... when you call for a channel macro you have to set each command in each macro to go to a specific port.

You can't just set satalitebox 1 to port one. You have to set each command on each page. Well that seems a little annoying... but think of it this way. My template for a sat box contains 35 pages of buttons and macros. Now if I have 2 sat boxes with only one IR address, in Pronto I am forced to use 2 RFX6500. But in the edit suit I litteraly tell the remote... these 35 pages to RFX1 these 35 pages to RFX2. Total time.. maybe 15 seconds.

Now here is the issue with the RTI editor... I have to go to each page... asign each command to the hard button. Tell each hard button you are on port 1 only then I have to go into every channel macro on every page and tell it every step by step in on a specific port. That is a whole day right there.

So When I submitted my list of features I wanted... first was the avability to treat pages as devices. And the ability to change the settings for the WHOLE device at one time.

DVD players... 4 pages. No major macros to worry about. Drag and drop the hard buttons for all 4 pages 4 times each. Little in efficient but do able.

Cable boxes. 20-25 cable pages. Almost as bad as satelite.

Now even if I imported pages.. I would have had to make two sepeerate port assigned devices to even be able to import them.

Sorry I keep having to get up from the computer and answer questions as I type so this may not flow too well.
Post 13 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 09:32
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Springs

you do not have to go through setting port assignments/IR repeat assignments for each command separately :

at the bottom left corner of each page, you will see a square box:called select button : highlight it; now go to either the hard buttons or soft buttons, and highlight all the buttons until they are enclosed in a red border (the buttons will turn red)

now click on any one of the buttons and a menu will pop up called multiple button properties: you can set port assigments/IR repeats, etc for ALL BUTTONS at once: it is a major time saver
Post 14 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 12:55
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On March 12, 2006 at 09:32, markrubin said...
Springs

you do not have to go through setting port assignments/IR
repeat assignments for each command separately
:

at the bottom left corner of each page, you will
see a square box:called select button : highlight
it; now go to either the hard buttons or soft
buttons, and highlight all the buttons until they
are enclosed in a red border (the buttons will
turn red)

now click on any one of the buttons and a menu
will pop up called multiple button properties:
you can set port assigments/IR repeats, etc for
ALL BUTTONS at once: it is a major time saver

This is only if you have a single command attached to the button. if you have a macro attached to the button, you must do each command, within the macro, separately.
Post 15 made on Sunday March 12, 2006 at 13:42
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Mark and Andy,

Thanks, that helps with one part of it in a big way.

That is a whole lot faster then what I was doing. Bummer about the Macros... Just want to make it easier to deal with when I get that ... "ohh we have 4 cable boxes that need to be on this remote."

I have faith that RTI could come up with a good fix for my issue. Well I wish they could. Dig the T3 and look forward to the wall pads and T$ maybe. BUt I gotta havea way to work quicker then 35 pages of a command at a time... :(
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