Hi, I'm new to universal remotes, and just purchased an AV3100 last week, largely based on the reviews and recommendations here. I have read these forums pretty thoroughly. Wow, there's a lot of good information. Anyway, I bought the Radio Shack 15-2103 to input discrete codes and have managed to create buttons for discrete on/off and input select on my Panasonic TV. Thanks for the threads!!

Does anyone happen to have a list of discrete codes for a Kenwood VR-509 and/or a Dish 811 HD Satellite receiver (JVC)? Can't seem to find them on the Hi-Fi Remote site. The Radio Shack will control the Kenwood by using 1313 (the Sony code is is 4015). The RS controls the JVC on 0775 (the Sony is 3010 I believe). Looking to build macros, of course, and would like to have the discrete on/off codes for both, at a minimum, and would also like to be able to directly select the amplifier inputs.

Thanks in advance!
-Scott

Can't help with the kenwood, but for the Dish receiver, check the advanced codes listed in this thread.

Here is the link for advanced/discrete codes for your Kenwood receiver. I didn’t see any discrete power codes, but it looks as if there are discrete input codes which may work. Assign setup code 0027 to the AMP key on your 2103, and then you can test the codes in this list to see if they work.

I think you can keymove any needed discrete codes using the 0027 setup code, and then go back to the 1313 code for control of your receiver.

[Link: hifi-remote.com]


See this thread for the keymover procedures [Link: remotecentral.com]

<>edmund-please check me out on these and make any corrections you need to. Thanks again, Ron

Thanks, got the codes for the Dish receiver. They worked great! Sorry, but as many times as I've read that thread, I can't quite grasp the concept of keymoves. I tried several times what I thought might be the right procedure, but it didn't work. Any suggestions? Thanks!

-Scott

The keymove concept will allow you to move a key from its present position to another key. Let’s say you wanted to move the mute button to another key because it will be easier to find when you want to use it, so you would use the keymove procedure. In the case of advanced codes, it will allow you to “move” the advanced code command to a selected key.

Let’s select a code that we know will probably work. Use 000, which is the power code. You can always change this to something else later.

First, be sure the 0027 setup code is assigned, and controls your receiver, even if it only the power key.

Second, select a key that you want to put the power command on.

Third, do the following. I have changed the procedures in the referenced thread to apply here.

Press and hold "p" until it blinks, then release
press 9-9-4
press the device key (in this case, the Amp key)
press "p" once
press the 3 digit advanced/discrete code 0-0-0
press the device key again (in this case, the Amp key)
press the key you want to use, which will then have the advanced/discrete code you assigned permanently entered

There is no need to exit the procedure; once you have performed the last step and pressed the key you want to use, the procedure ends itself, and you have to repeat all steps to assign another command to another key.

To map a advanced code to a key on the 2103, do this:

1. press device key(Tv)
2. press and hold P for two blinks
3. enter 9-9-4
4. tap P for one blink
5. enter the 3 digit advanced code
6. pick a key

OK, I think that's what I was doing before. Thanks for the validation! But I think the problem is that none of the codes listed for Kenwood (0027, 0077, 0313, 0186, 0314, 0356) will even control the power on the amp (VR-509). In the RS remote manual, 1313 was listed, and it works. I'm thinking it might be because the remote for the VR-509 is a UHF remote. In fact, I can't even find a way to learn a key from the remote to the AV3100. And unfortunately, the Digital Audio input (from the satellite) is on Video 3, which isn't on the default AV3100 screen. So unless I can find a way to get an advanced code in, or at least learn a key from my Kenwood remote to scroll through the inputs, I think I may be stuck! Hmmm...

Your remote is RF, but it sounds like your receiver will accept both RF and IR commands.

If the only setup code that works with the 2103 is 1313, then you won't be able to use advanced codes because they only work with setup codes starting with zero, with a few exceptions.

So, you won't be able to get an advanced code in, and you won't be able to learn anything on the 3100 from your Kenwood remote.

For some reason I can’t download the manual for your VR-509. Every time I try it locks up. I would have liked to be able to check this out in the manual but I will have to ask instead.

If your remote gives you direct access to the video inputs, the only thing I can suggest is to locate a store which has Kenwood receivers, find one with an IR remote, and learn the video input commands from it, if it has them, and see if they work.

Maybe edmund knows a way around this, which would be good because I am out of suggestions.

Thanks again, Ron. I will check to see if I can find a Kenwood dealer who will allow me to learn the codes. My remote does not allow me to access the inputs directly, they are scrolled, but perhaps a newer model might have direct access (I can hope!). The manual doesn't have any mention of a way to teach other remotes, only the other way around. It's interesting to note that on my Dish 811 (JVC) receiver, which has a UHF remote, I found a buried menu option that will echo keys pressed on the remote to the "IR Blast" port on the receiver itself. You have to hold the 3100 about 2 inches from the receiver, but it did work. I will check w/ Kenwood to see if they have a similar feature, but doesn't seem likely.

Does the kenwood receiver have an antenna? If yes, try disconnecting it. On JVC receivers, disconnecting the antenna turns on the IR sensor on the front.

Scott:

I have the same Kenwood VR-509 receiver as you and a RMAV3000 and had similar problems regarding the INPUT SELECT.

I can't remember what code I used to get the RMAV3000 to operate the Kenwood receiver...I picked one were most everything worked and then relearned the individual input selects using the supplied Kenwood remote. The following is pretty long-winded, but it worked to solve my problems and should help you get to selecting the inputs at least:

The Kenwood remote does both IR and RF...RF needs an antenna (page 19 of manual)
The remote can be set to send only IR...this is what I did before learning IR codes with my RMAV3000.
The switch is under the battery cover in the top right...there are 3 settings: 1) RF Band1, 2) RF Band2 and 3) RF Off.
The next "trick" is that the receiver needs to be set the same way.
Press and hold the SET UP key on the front panel of the VR-509 receiver for more than 2 seconds and release. After that, each time you press the SET UP key, the RF reception frequency changes as follows: 1) RF Band1, 2) RF Band2 and 3) RF Off.
Match the Kenwood remote and the VR-509.

As for teaching the RMAV3000, the IR signal for the different input selections (the INPUT SELECTOR dial on the VR-509) you need to use the 2 of the 3 buttons labelled MUSIC, MOVIE and TV (ignore the TV button).
I struggled with my setup because I thought that by pressing these keys the remote was sending the same signal each time and it was a toggle system...it is not, the remote is sending different IR signals each time (probably in increments in a loop is my guess). I found this out by experimenting with the Kenwood remote and the RMAV3000.

When you press the MUSIC key on the Kenwood remote, the order loops as follows: CD/DVD, MD/Tape, Tuner, Phono
When you press the MOVIE key on the Kenwood remote,the order loops as follows: Video1, Video2, Video3, DVD, AV AUX

The "trick" I learned was to stop at the input *before* the one I wanted to teach to the RMAV3000 and then set the RMAV3000 to receive and learn the next signal.

For example: to learn the Video1 signal, press the MOVIE button on the Kenwood remote till AV AUX was just set (you will see it on both the remotes display and the VR-509 display)....the next time that the MOVIE button is pressed, the signal will change the INPUTto Video1...capture that signal onto the RMAV3000.

Once the RMAV3000 learns the input select signals its a snap...except that you manually must have set the digital or analog using the Input Mode button on the receiver (see below) and leave it there.

On page 7 of Kenwood manual it says that:
1) CD/DVD and DVD/6ch inputs are factory set as "digital"
2) Video2 and Video3 are factory set as "analog"
On the VR-509, this means that there are different input connections used.

These can easily be changed on the VR-509 receiver by first turning the INPUT SELECTOR knob (or by using your SONY remote now that it has learned the inputs!) to the input source you want and then setting either "digital" or "analog" using the INPUT MODE button on the VR-509 receiver....there are auto-sensing and manual settings....I'm not sure if there are discrete IR codes for the INPUT MODE.

In my case, I needed to change the audio input type for Video3 to digital and the DVD/6ch to analog (reverse of the factory defaults) to get my two DVD palyers to work the way I wanted.

Hope this helps.