OK, I think that's what I was doing before. Thanks for the validation! But I think the problem is that none of the codes listed for Kenwood (0027, 0077, 0313, 0186, 0314, 0356) will even control the power on the amp (VR-509). In the RS remote manual, 1313 was listed, and it works. I'm thinking it might be because the remote for the VR-509 is a UHF remote. In fact, I can't even find a way to learn a key from the remote to the AV3100. And unfortunately, the Digital Audio input (from the satellite) is on Video 3, which isn't on the default AV3100 screen. So unless I can find a way to get an advanced code in, or at least learn a key from my Kenwood remote to scroll through the inputs, I think I may be stuck! Hmmm...