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Post 1 made on Tuesday January 13, 2015 at 18:42
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Latest update:

The transition to Ultra-High definition television, ATSC 3.0, could begin as soon as 2017.

It won't be compatible with ATSC 1.0, meaning technical upgrades to existing HDTV's will be necessary.

The upside is it will be able to allow broadcasters to provide additional content to tvs, online, and on mobile devices. Sinclair Broadcast Group is planning on replacing some syndicated content on its stations with news programs from their new news network.

[Link: tvnewscheck.com]

 
Post 2 made on Wednesday January 14, 2015 at 20:13
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Mmm, 4k 60fps h.265...
Post 3 made on Sunday January 18, 2015 at 00:00
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On January 13, 2015 at 18:42, OBICO said...
Latest update:

The transition to Ultra-High definition television, ATSC 3.0, could begin as soon as 2017.

It won't be compatible with ATSC 1.0, meaning technical upgrades to existing HDTV's will be necessary.

Well, that will kill my MDP-130s as legacy devices [except maybe, like the VCRs I kept, as PlayBack only devices, for old material] I just wonder what capture card* manufacturers will provide and will they offer Remote control use as my MyHDs do, and how much will it cost?

*or set top box
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[Link: avsforum.com]
Post 4 made on Tuesday January 20, 2015 at 02:59
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Oh, I'm sure everything will eventually become as functional as it is now, but I don't think I'd expect it that way right out the gate. H.265 is still very new and demanding technology for hardware compared to h.264, and especially compared to the ancient MPEG2 presently used for broadcast.
Post 5 made on Tuesday January 20, 2015 at 08:51
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Well, I haven't been impressed with people using MPEG4.
Its like watching live TV through plastic food wrap.
If I'm downloading and can't find a 720p .mkv, I'd prefer an old fashioned .avi to an h.264.mp4. Only the YIFI group seems to know what they're doing.
The tuners will have to change, only the carrier is analogue [as Mother Nature is, re:EM spectrum] to accommodate extra digital pulses, then new decoder chips to execute the various functions. Just as my capture cards have hardware MPEG2 decoders [originally designed so they could run in otherwise discarded 386/486/P4 era computers in 2006] and since you could forget about having an RF modulator, would play a DVD's Mpeg2 file directly, up-scaling to whatever your monitor resolution was set for (with DVD43 or AnyDVD installed) all the way to 1080p [well, 1024, since 1080 is a "pass through" setting for TV].

To save my fingers:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org]

I hope I don't get disappointed like I am with MPEG4.
The more you compress a signal, the more you lose in fidelity.

Last edited by Bruce H.Campbell on January 20, 2015 09:02.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday January 21, 2015 at 03:38
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Nothing wrong with h.264 - the people encoding it are another story.

Those MKVs are pretty much guaranteed to have been encoded with h.264 or x.264 (AKA MPEG-4 Part 10) - there really isn't anything else used these days. It's what they use with Blu-rays, Youtube, Netflix... etc.

Those AVIs are most likely encoded with XVID, also known as MPEG-4 Part 2, and sometimes h.263. No one's using old and highly inefficient MPEG2 (h.262) for downloads.
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday January 21, 2015 at 17:18
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Will wireless carriers resist equipping phones with ATSC 3.0 chips?

[Link: tvnewscheck.com]

If wireless carriers could lose money over this, look for a lot more mergers between broadcasters and wireless companies in the U.S.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday January 23, 2015 at 18:48
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The next step for the Advanced Television Systems Committee is to chose an audio standard for the ATSC 3.0.  It will involve enhance surround and the 'personalization' of sound.
Dolby Laboratories, DTS and the triumvirate of Technicolor, Fraunhofer and Qualcomm have each developed a system.  After one of these are chosen, it will have to receive FCC approval.

[Link: tvnewscheck.com]
 
Post 9 made on Thursday January 29, 2015 at 13:10
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On January 23, 2015 at 18:48, OBICO said...
The next step for the Advanced Television Systems Committee is to chose an audio standard for the ATSC 3.0.  It will involve enhanced surround and the 'personalization' of sound.

Well, that will just put it in line to what home theatre aficionados do when using commercial pre-recorded materials through their amplifier sections.

Just heard on CHCH, while typing here, that the CRTC won't let OTA go down (relief), maybe OBICO will have the time to dig up more info.

Last edited by Bruce H.Campbell on January 29, 2015 13:21.
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OP | Post 10 made on Friday January 30, 2015 at 17:52
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U.S. Networks against 3.0 standard which allow cell phones to receive TV transmissions  (no surprise). 
[Link: tvnewscheck.com]
OP | Post 11 made on Tuesday May 5, 2015 at 19:11
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A preview for the upcoming May 13 ATSC conference in Washington.
[Link: cepro.com]
One of the many points of interest is indoor reception.   Cool!
OP | Post 12 made on Thursday May 7, 2015 at 18:11
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"ATSC is on track with its timetable for having a final next-gen TV standard in the first quarter of 2017, 2015 is the year that we expect each piece of it to go to candidate standard, and in 2016 the candidate standard status will continue as we work on finalizing the standard.”

[Link: tvnewscheck.com]
OP | Post 13 made on Thursday July 9, 2015 at 19:10
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Here is another article on ATSC 3.0 by Phil Kurtz.

[Link: tvnewscheck.com]
OP | Post 14 made on Monday July 13, 2015 at 18:51
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[Link: tvtechnology.com]

Here is an article on the latest ATSC 3.0 test in Cleveland.
OP | Post 15 made on Thursday August 20, 2015 at 18:50
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The latest channel sharing experiment...[Link: tvnewscheck.com]

Channel sharing will happen.  However, there is a downside.  In the event that PBS Buffalo (WNED-DT) elects to sell its spectrum and share a frequency with another station, that new transmitter site could be farther away from your location, i.e. Colden. 
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