So you're saying it does not resend power commands but it does resend the discrete input selections?

If that's the case then Poolboy needs to check the input selection and make sure it's using the discrete input option. Sounds like it isn't.

One other possibility is that the harmony IS sending the input selection command but it's being ignored because of timing problems. Try increasing the inter-device delay for the TV.

Amorenod test results make sense. The Harmony uses the Smart State when switching to a different activity, but blindly re-sends discrete commands when selecting the same activity again.

Note: The device must also be deemed (by the Harmony database) to support the discrete method. Maybe your AVR is NOT deemed. Check with support.

Going back to square one - there shouldn't be any power-on delay when SWITCHING inputs - only when turning on the system.

Yes, but it only re-sends Input discrete commands (Test 2). No further Power discrete commands are send, neither by selecting the same activity nor by starting a new one (Test 1).

However, the Help button sends all discrete commands.

I am using the discrete input method on my AVR (method 2). Some of you are getting different results than me on the input test, so I am beginning to think there is something unique in my situation. Maybe an inter-device delay issue, but that doesn't seem likely because on Test 2 I am waiting a long time between switching inputs with the OEM remote and selecting Activity 1 again.

Agreed. The power-on delay when turning on the system is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. I don't want to have to point the remote at my system for 5 seconds when only .5 seconds is necessary.

OK, let's go back to the dummy Power On command trick. Instead of None, set it to a command that doesn't power on the receiver.

Then go to the receiver device settings -> Adjust the delays -> set Power On delay to 100 ms

Will try this tonight, thanks. I have a few other things to try before I beg for help from Logitech support.

I did another version of Test 2 last night, except I did the input switch on my TV instead of the receiver, and the remote DID re-send the discrete input command and it switched back to the proper input. That's the same result you were getting. For some reason on my original Test 2, my receiver is not getting the discrete input command or it is not being sent. There may be something device-specific going on.

Perhaps the discrete commands in the database are wrong. Try them manually in device mode, if the commands don't work, learn them from the original remote.

So you don't have any device that needs a delay between the moment it receives power and the time when it's ready to receive and act on a command, such as setting its input?

The power on delay is based on the device and doesn't matter whether you're using a harmony or any other universal remote.

I guess the receiver really has a Power On delay, but if I understand what Poolboy wants, starting directly with an input command will power on the receiver and set it to that input, therefore the delay after a dummy power command would be unnecessary.

Ah, yes. Good point.

Amorenod, in my case (Harmony 680), it still re-sends both the discrete power and input commands when selecting the same activity even with the newer Software version (7.5.0) just like before.

Poolboy, maybe your AVR device is NOT deemed to support discrete inputs. That is an internal flag that can be changed only by support.

I see. I will test my brother's 688 this weekend, perhaps the direct activity buttons remotes have a different behaviour.