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If a remote has RF, would it work with Harmony One?
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Post 1 made on Friday August 8, 2008 at 02:20
Lurking Member
August 2008
There is a product that I am interested in that has not been released yet and thus at this point I cannot check on Logitech's website or through the Logitech Harmony Remote Software to see whether or not this device's remote is compatible with Harmony One.

The device is below:


I have got a few questions. (Sorry in advance, as I am quite a newbie about these stuff)

1) The product is described to include an RF remote. So first of all, would an RF remote ALWAYS include IR as well? (I stressed "always", so please do not say merely yes or no and indicate whether this is always the case, because I don't wanna encounter with any surprise) In other words, is the IR option always inherently available in an RF remote?

2) If your answer is "no" to the above question and supposing that this will be a mere RF remote, would this mean that this RF remote will not be compatible with Harmony One? In other words, would I be able to operate this device with Harmony One instead of the RF remote that comes with the device?

3) This is a general question: I observed that this device's remote includes only a few buttons but the previous version device's remote includes way more buttons. This would accordingly mean that Harmony One can have more operable buttons when used instead of the latter remote, right? To make my question more simpler, if the first remote, say, does not include a power button whereas the second remote includes it, I can assign a button on Harmony as the power button if I am going to use it instead of the latter remote but I would not be able to have a power button on my Harmony if I will use it instead of the former remote, right? Shortly, there is no way to assign a function that is non-existent on the original remote, right?

Post 2 made on Friday August 8, 2008 at 09:06
Super Member
March 2004
For 1 and 2, the answer is no, the Harmony won't be able to control this product using RF (unless it happens to be Z-wave which I doubt). Harmony is prevented by law from using the same frequency as another mfr - that's how the FCC makes sure that your RF fan control doesn't interfere with your RF garage door opener. Z-wave is a protocol that allows products from different mfrs to talk to each other - similar to how computers from different mfrs all talk to each other via Ethernet.

It does appear to have an IR receiver on the front but it's hard to tell for sure. You should call or email the company and ask them or do a google search.

As to your 3rd question - it doesn't matter what is on the OEM remote. What matters is what is programmed into the device's firmware. The firmware is usually shared while the remote design is up to the product designer. The harmony database usually has all the available commands for a device regardless of whether that command appears on the OEM remote or not. In other words - it's the device, not the remote that determines the commands. The only difference is you can't learn a command yourself if it's not on the OEM remote but you normally don't need to do that.

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